#84

Massive concentration problems - can not focus (obviously, hence 14 years of posting shit with you dickheads). Hence I end up working extra hours out of guilt.

(when I gave up DiS I just wasted it on Twitter so no that doesn’t work)

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#85

So in essence you are paid for the overtime, it’s just implicit in your salary.

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#86

Someone told an anecdote on here once about someone they went to school with whose parents had separated and their Dad was a chained-to-the-office type. One year the result of this was that on his birthday he spent it at Thorpe Park, but just with his Dad’s PA.

Pops into my mind occasionally, and it always makes me feel incredibly sad.

#87

Oh god, that’s just horrible.

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#88

Was his dad Tony Soprano?

#89

Yeah there’s something incredibly bleak about it.

#90

Pretty sure the kid would have preferred one solid hour of one-on-one time than a day out without their dad. Jesus

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#91

Grandad

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#92

Kind of? It can also be negotiated as TOIL, but that’s not in my contract, just an agreement. I guess that counts to an extent, so sorry for missing that part out (it’s also very new to me).

#93

It’s the fact that it’s Thorpe Park as well.

#94

Actually heartbreaking

#95

Once or twice a week I work until 5.30, which is 30 minutes over my contractual obligations. I sometimes take TOIL for this, but I fuck about on The Internet so much that sometimes I don’t bother taking it back.

#96

Yeah it’s not something I’d be keen on, but I guess all I was saying was that if it’s clear up front that that’s what’s expected of you then it’s sort of baked into your wage. Of course that opens you up to any amount of piss-taking on their part in theory (or “flexibility” if you fancy using the employers’ term of choice :wink: )

Of course as I’ve said elsewhere, working for a company that’s cool with a policy of real terms pay cuts for everyone every year doesn’t put me on any moral high ground.

#97

Hey, hey, steady on.

#98

Well that all sounds good, and I totally understand how ‘overtime’ and all that can be sometimes unavoidable. Your position sounds very sustainable and responsible on your employers behalf.

#99

That’s the bit I was struggling with a little
Doesn’t sound like sheeldz is working for a bunch of pricks tho

#100

This 100%.

#101

This is my situation. Bullshit, but still much better than an expectation of genuinely unpaid overtime.

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#102

I’ve found it really difficult since moving up to management. The worst bit is the long weekdays / commuting: even when I don’t work any overtime I’ll leave the house at 7.10am and not get home til 5.30pm. I do manage to see my children every day before bed so that’s something.

Generally:

  • Saturdays are sacred and I won’t do any work on that day;
  • Same with Sunday daytimes unless they’re otherwise engaged in something and don’t really need me about;
  • Evenings - I try to limit my home-working to times when Mrs CCB is out or when she’s otherwise busy with something.

That Thorpe Park anecdote is just grim :frowning:

#103

Gah. Clicked the wrong thing. Used to be terrible for working late all the time, encouraged by a very dysfunctional company that I worked for where it was part of the culture and I was young and easily intimidated. Pretty comfortable just saying ‘no’ now, but I do a made up job so it doesn’t really effect anyone.