#66

After my very public chastisement from that @gnometorious I’ve been delving more into panic’s back catalogue, starting with something wicked, and now death of bachelor. They sure know how to craft hit after hit.

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#67

Like this…

#68

Maybe a little. Slight similarity.

#69

I’m willing to state for the record that on early listens panic are a rare band where it appears their later output is far superior to their earlier stuff. Fever sounds weak and unrounded in comparison.

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#70

I mean, durrrrr!

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#71

Worth noting that by the time of ‘…Batchelor’, it’s a Brendan Urie solo project in all but name. These two facts are not unrelated.

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#72

I seeeeee. Yes that would explain a lot.

#73

Do we know if that’s because he’s an arse or just happened to end up solo?

#74

The guitarist & bassist quit after the shitshow that was Pretty.Odd. It was Ryan Ross (guitar) who wanted them to sound like The Beatles.

So for Vices & Virtues and Too Weird To Live, it’s Brendan + Spencer Smith (drums) + various cowriters and producers (including the replacement band members, but they were never full members, more employees a la Ronnie Wood when he first joined the stones).

Spencer Smith officially left before Batchelor, although by all accounts he’d been out of commission for ages due to personal problems. Then the bassist came out and said he was no longer ‘contributing creatively’, so Batchelor is all Brendan, every instrument except the brass. There’s a few Rivers Cuomo co-writes on that album too (most of the big singles IIRC)

Then during the Batchelor cycle, the guitarist got kicked out for noncing and the bassist left for other reasons, so the current lineup has only actually put out one album together.

I’ve only ever heard very nice things about Brendan Urie as a person, and I’ve a lot of time for anyone who can collaborate with Every Time I Die AND Taylor Swift, but you have to reckon on a certain level of bastardy just to survive in that business right?

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#75

Pete Wentz/Patrick Stump must be a bit miffed that FOB never reached panic’s heights now. At one point they were always mentioned in the same breath.

#76

That said just looked at fob wiki and they’re not doing too badly at all

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#77

I think this is something I really love about him and also Hayley who, for example, guested with The Chariot. There’s no reason you can’t love pop and metal genres.

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#78

Both bands headlined Reading last year. pretty sure FoB are fine with their success, even if we, the music snob know they aren’t as good.

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#79

I think where panic have had real success is they’ve full on been accepted by the mainstream… As just great musicians, where fob probably only appeal to the emos these days (hence headlining reading etc). I’m arguing this really poorly but hopefully you know what I mean

#80

Doesn’t Jenny Owens Youngs co-write for them?

#81

yeah, i get what you mean, but at the same time, I think FoB are huge in America, so huge in fact, Taylor Swift has apparently covered them!

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#82

Yeah looking at the stats fob are doing brill in America.

Actually looking at chart positions for patd in the UK I was really surprised that Saturday night and high hopes were not top ten

#83

Fob are, imho, very MOR, phoning it in and it kinda pisses me off that panic! still get lumped in with them. And I say that as someone who had an absolute BLAST dancing and singing along at their Reading set last year.

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#85

Hahahaha look at how happy he is!!

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