#87

santa maria clutches rosary beads

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#89

literally this thread has caused people to come out with “why can’t left and right wing people just get along?” before I even said anything

#90

Saying “literally” and putting something in speech marks strongly implies that the sentence was actually used

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#91

sorry but that is definitely the angle people are going for here

#92

People talk about newsworthy stuff. It shouldn’t be newsworthy, but you only need to read the replies to his statement on that tweet in the original post to understand why it is and why it’s important.

There’s a time and place to call out right wingers for their politics, and there’s a time and place to support them as humans. This is very much the latter.

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#93

PCBE

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#94

I dunno, @Bamnan has a tiny bit of a point.

If someone universally hated by DiS came out as gay, we’d definitely have a very different thread.

#95

wtf

#97

You know we fucking would, come on.

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#99

I’m sorry, I’m sure it is very difficult and stressful to come out publicly as gay, just seems so weird to be praising and drawing attention to somebody doing that who is palling around comfortably with boris johnson and then to dismiss politics on the basis of somebody’s personal life

#100

if Donald Trump came out I’d hope and wish the conversation would be more nuanced than “oh but he’s bad for xyz reason so actually forget about it”

#101

Literally his job to interview whoever his bosses invite onto the show

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#102

Guess the closest that comes to my mind is caitlyn jenner who is roundly pretty awful but I absolutely feel and felt comfortable supporting her coming out as a trans woman and acknowledging the bravery it took to do so

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#105

But you can’t honestly take something in complete isolation. Yeah good on him for coming out, must be hard etc…but let’s keep a total lid on anything bad JUST for today. It’s fucking weird. Same thing happens when someone dies. WE MUST HAVE 24 HOURS OF POSITIVE VIBES ONLY ok times up, go ahead.

It’s perfectly normal and ok to feel conflicted about supporting someone wholeheartedly when you don’t think they’ve been a great person to vulnerable people.

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#106

Sorry to change the tone but

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#107

and 1%

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#109

But the lines between all these things a massively blurred based on someones own opinion of a person and your own morale compass. All I’m saying is I’m not getting the full pile on of Bam for saying something he feels conflicted about.

I ain’t into it is all i’m saying. I’m not saying anyones right or wrong here.

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#110

Don’t think that chat should be restricted to ‘only good things about x’ but requires a level of nuance above ‘they’re a tory so fuck them’.

There’s a pretty big middle ground there

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#111

And so can everyone else…which is my point.

It’s like walking on eggshells a bit here when someone does anything.

#113

^This
I watched that doc last night about Barrymore and the pool death. One of the talking heads was a NotW ‘journalist’ who broke the story and the way he talked so unapologetically about how they reported the case was quite sickening.

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