#41

Yes there are, and I never ever ever meet a cyclist who paint themselves as anything but perfect, so fuck 'em.

#42

i am not deffo not perfect, do quite silly things on my bike all the time

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#43

Also if you do silly things on a bike you tend to fall off which makes your infallibility disappear quite quickly when you’re sprawled out on the ground in front of everyone (I have fallen off a lot).

#44

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#45

TYPICAL

#46

Ooh, I’ll put it in a blame poll:

So, crossing Clerkenwell Road one morning, fairly heavy rush hour traffic. At a part of the road where there’s a pedestrian island in the middle of the road, but no lights / zebra crossing etc. Due to said traffic, a double-decker bus has stopped so that the island is fully accessible to people wanting to cross the road. Maybe half a dozen people cross in front of the bus to the island - but a cyclist comes up the side of the bus and collides with the person on the right-most side of the group (me). There’s some shouting some yelling, some bruising, but no permanent damage, cyclist rides off angry, I limp off slowly.

  • You’re an idiot, just because the bus has stopped to let people cross doesn’t mean you’re good to go
  • Cyclist should have been aware the bus had stopped and pedestrians were likely to be crossing and slowed down accordingly
  • You’re both cunts
  • Something else

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#47

Not really falling off, more:

shouting at pedestrians when they step out in front of me (when nebbie said quite rightly I have a duty to be vigilant at all times [i mean so does the ped but there we go])

shouting at drivers and getting exceptionally confrontational

cycling while drunk

squeezing through tiny gaps in traffic, especially between buses, and overtaking them when i shouldn’t (for example, near a zebra crossing)

occasional RLJ

#48

It’s A+B, surely?

#49

:point_right: :fist_left:

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#50

It’s a road awareness issue more than a right of way issue.

#51

Cyclist mostly at fault
you kind of at fault for being near clerkenwell road

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#52

bit of cyclist should have been aware, and a bit of just because the bus stopped doesn’t mean you’re good to go, really

good example of how it’s super important to be very aware of the road – the bus just thought “oh i’ll slow to let these peds cross” and wouldn’t have thought about other traffic (bikes, mopeds, motorcycles) coming up the side wanting to get through

contrary to what i voted, i would probably have bombed my way through everyone, shouting abuse

#53

My take on things.

As the pedestrian is the most vulnerable road user the cyclist (and bus) should be avoiding you.

That’s not to say the walker shouldn’t be looking after their own safety too.

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#54

Yes, I agree with this.

I believe there should be presumed liability, where:

Presumed liability ensures the most vulnerable road users are protected – cyclists from motorists and pedestrians from cyclists.

http://roadshare.co.uk.websitebuilder.prositehosting.co.uk/why-presumed-liability

Most countries in Europe operate like this and it would encourage a mutual understanding between pedestrians, cyclists and motorist where, in the absence of legal clarity, there is an obsession with unhealthy blaming.

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#55

Alright, Clarkson

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#56

Yes I’m Clarkson and Hitler and the Daily Mail because cyclists almost hit me and everyone I know and pretend they don’t

#57

Yeah this is it really. It’s the cyclist’s right of way, sure, but the cyclist doesn’t appear to have judged the situation adequately.

Holding rigidly to ‘who had right of way’ =/= the safest course of action.

#58

Using roads is like one big cooperative game where the goal is for everyone to get to their destination safely. Problems arise when people - regardless of mode of transport - try to “win” instead.

#madeuthink

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#59

Far too many cyclists using chaotic neutral characters imho

#60

how about those cyclists eh