You’re the worst.

Guess OBT didn’t make it long enough to do AQOS after all, then…

Honestly I do try to give people a chance to think about what they’re doing.

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you’re obviously someone who has been removed from here before, so I won’t waste time with anything else.

What if L doesn’t want to have to go through endless interviews, through cross examination and having her reputation torn to pieces by a lawyer doing their job? Should she still have to go through it just so your wish to see MJ in jail is satiated?

Obviously something I would never want my resolve tested on but if someone accused me of something I didn’t do I’d obviously be distraught and angry at my misfortune and would try to clear my name, but i’d still want to live in a world where people believed the victims because that would be a world where more justice would be done even though id personally be worse off

I mean despite the fact he’s gone I’ll just come back to this:

[the victim has] the opportunity to punish the perpetrator with proof

Obviously they don’t always have proof even though they are victims of abuse.

At least OBT had the decency not to do it in the Hookworms thread I guess. Small mercies :slight_smile:

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Didn’t realise this One2One was just another troll…he brought up my career in another thread (where I was probably a bit glib) and it confused me for a second.

He was OvertakenByTractors.

I let him stay around this time because

  • the details weren’t 100% conclusive
  • he’d managed to be on here for a month or so and hadn’t pissed anyone off
  • I was therefore prepared that he might be wise enough to not be a prick

Sadly…

noticed that and was gonna tell you to ignore him, but wrongly assumed you’d clocked the tosspot already.

Oh right. Always find it weird how went literally years appearing to be fine…

On the new boards I got into a PM discussion with him (a previous alt account) that made it very clear that his intentions weren’t constructive

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genuinely don’t get why these fucks keep coming back. what are they getting out of it? hahaha, made you ban me again, I win. just fuck off and do literally anything else

they’re probably inhibited from such behaviour in person by better people. everyone needs an outlet innit.

That assumes that if a person is guilty it is possible to prove it, sometimes there isn’t proof.

As for the victim is not being crucified, this has been covered a lot, it is a zero sum situation, treating the accused as innocent until proven guilty means treating the victim as lying until proven truthful, and as often it is difficult to prove this is a big problem, as all the research and stats show how prevalent abuse is, how rare it is to get justice, and how rare false accusations are, balance of probabilities you are best to side with the victim. It’s also weird how generally when people say they are accused of a crime, I was robbed, I was punched, I was conned, the normal thing is to believe them, yet with abuse the response is so often ‘now then nothing has been proven’ it’s weird and only makes sense if people think false accusations are rife but all the stats and research shows that is not the case so it more likely just reflects people’s attidues and bias

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Yeah, I think a lot of people really like a ‘safe’ opportunity for being awful.

I mean - nerd alert - but when you play D&D some people will pick an evil alignment for their character and the results are often pretty weird and chilling. You discover they have a streak of complete shithead in them that they clearly just don’t channel in real life much and see a cooperative game as the perfect spot to let it out.

So similarly, I imagine a lot of people just view online in that context.

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smack bang on the head.

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Don’t know whether it’s CG or the OBT or whoever, but seems like there’s one or a couple of people who are completely persistent about playing devils advocate and generally just being awful around topics like abuse on here. Still. Like they’ve an axe to grind wrt the improvements this community has made and the better way it polices itself now.

I asked for that account to be banned right away yesterday because it would inevitably open a can of worms and lo and behold that’s what happened. There’s dialogue to be had around topics like abuse but absolutely not in the way bad faith accounts like those are looking for it, no matter how “legitimately” they might try code it.

Can’t speak for everyone but I think many would agree that this community has made it clear they’re not welcome. Please just stop.

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I mean OBT has kept coming back a few times and has a fairly distinctive IP signature.

I don’t believe KindRegards was CG and in fact I don’t believe he comes on here any more (this is based on knowing his location and the IP location of KR, as well as having CG as a friend on FB).

Hoader and Ben both appear to be completely legitimate users who have particular issues with this topic.

CupidCome has a distinct email that rang a bell but I couldn’t place. I just thought to check my email search and he’s a old hardcore DiS troll so I’ve binned him off now.

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Can a policy of suspending any new users (for a day-a week) Jmwho post in threads with a content warning about sexual abuse be implemented to avoid more threads being derailed

This thread was really hard to follow because two were merged and the timings of the posts jump back and forth - if topics are going to be merged can the mod make a post in the thread first to explain this so it’s clear? Thanks!