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Just watched the s3 finale. Chuckled a few times.

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I think I used to really like this show cos I just thought of it as this silly little throwaway thing. The show worked mainly because it was surprising and irreverent, but also kinda ramshackle in a way that suggested the creators weren’t treating it like A Serious Thing and wouldn’t be too bothered if it only lasted a season or two, or whatever. That was a big part of the charm of the first intergalactic cable episode, I think. It was a kinda punk approach to making a show, and that made it funny.

In the intervening period between seasons 2&3 it seemed to become a ‘cultural phenomenon’, and in some ways the creators lost control of what the show actually was. I think they responded by treating the show with more seriousness than it deserved. And I think they made a mistake in believing that the ‘serious’ moments of the first two seasons were good because they built deep characters, when really they just worked because they were surprising and wrong-footed you a bit. So they overestimated the depth of and interest in their own characters, when really none of them are particularly interesting at all. They were just good vessels for silly and/or off-kilter jokes.

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Couldn’t agree more! :+1:

Think you’ve nailed it here

Dude from Chapo had a good take on the sauce thing.

Season 3 definitely weakest of the three - I’ve been a bit disappointed by quite a few of the episodes.

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good to know

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Yes it is.

I don’t think they’ll ever be able to beat the Pickle Rick episode though! It’s the pinnacle of escalating a programme to it’s logical extreme (knowingly as well).

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Pickle Rick and Vindicators are clear highlights!

One that could be applied to a lot of nerd behaviour, particularly in video game circles.

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You’re right about there being more disappointing episodes though - probably a case of diminishing returns.

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Hmm.

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Still generally of a high standard although I did think that it wasn’t as tightly plotted as some earlier seasons. The whole ‘Gerry moving out’ stuff didn’t seem to lead to anything - I had assumed it would be part of a bigger story arc.

Stan Lee once said “Never give the readers what they want” when asked about writing comics. Greg Burgess (or was it Greg Hatcher) wrote that genre franchises must entertain the audience, not obey them.

Having less Gerry because he’s boring or wanting more Rick the nihilist anti-hero is what I would expect from fans who shout the loudest.

After watching the season three finale, I’d like to think the show has learnt from their mis-step and will trust their instincts for the next season.

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I think Jerry’s seen more as a whipping boy than disliked for being boring. Rick’s disdain for Jerry, echoed by the show’s fans, is where the show veers way too close to the “Alpha vs Beta” Red Pill bullshit.

That said, ultimately the separation thing was more about giving Jerry and Beth something to do… which is pretty much what they’ve done the entire series: break them up or give them reasons to be on the outs so drama is created. They are basically defined by their relationship with one another. The show acknowledged this in the finale, but I’m not sure to what degree they recognise how shallow that is.

There just wasn’t much tension in many of the episodes was there. Like the vindicators episode - they’re all clearly arseholes from the minute you meet them, so there’s no development, and Morty seems like he already knows what’s going to happen with Rick’s trials so it’s all a bit boring. Even Pickle Rick - after he makes his little exoskeleton thing I feel like the tension disappears even as the violence escalates.

Tried to do a bit too much I think.

Never watch R&M but am a big fan of Lee Hardcastle and didn’t know he’d done these:

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