Rolling DIY thread

i’ve bought a couple of rolls off of facebook marketplace and one on clearance online and managed to save quite a lot, guess I can eye ball them when they arrive and if they don’t match then sell them on. didn’t realise batch numbers were a thing before

Need some help please! We have raised beds in our garden, and they’re held in by the white stone panels you can see at the back and right of this photo:

I wanted to replace them with wood but the guy redoing our garden says they need to be stone so they’re strong enough to hold in the bed (which is also supporting the back fence). I’d like to maybe replace them but I can’t find anything like them online - does anyone know what they’re called, and/or where I might find some online?

surely railway sleeper type things would do.

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I know nothing about wallpaper but it sounds equivalent to the dye lot on wool. Eyeballing them when they turn up may not be enough to tell you if there’ll be a visible difference when you’ve put them up. If you can put the different batches on different walls or take advantage of some other kind of boundary it’ll hide it better (the knitting equivalent is using the second dye lot for a sleeve where the shoulder seam will disguise the difference in colour). Whether you care if there is a subtle visible difference is another matter.

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p.s. like your garden.

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That’s what I thought, but my guy was insistent that wouldn’t be strong enough. He seemed pretty switched on, he was the only person I’ve had round who actually noticed that would be a problem to remove them, and that the bed was propping up our back fence.

Thanks - will hopefully be a lot better when we get rid of the bed on the right, move the shed along, and then get a pergola and patio set. I’d like at least a small part of the garden to be for us grown ups :slight_smile:

Are they stone, or are they concrete? I suspect that they’re the latter.

They’re effectively acting as a retaining wall, so you’ll need something sturdy and posts that go pretty deep.

Something like these should work, I’d have thought

I think you’re right, it must be concrete as it’s been cast right? I can see bubbles in the surface too.

They look really great. Might just get the landscapers to do the garden and then get one of the Jacksons installers to give me an opinion on replacing the current retaining wall with those sleepers - that’s the look I’d been after.

you can create a retaining wall with sleepers, you’ll see loads of examples and methods online. you’ll want to think about drainage though just to ensure you’re not holding up a sodden block of soil that’s going to rot the wood eventually.

You could use fence posts either in front of the sleeper (so the weight of the sleepers and bed is borne by these) or hide the posts behind (but this is less strong and relies on solid fixings). Another way I’ve seen it done is by creating some concrete footings and putting rebar through the sleepers into the concrete. You need to be careful when mixing metal and sleepers, especially if they’re oak.

If you’re happy with a little bit of metal then I’d look at something like this:

There are also these products which would work with concrete footings as well and should be plenty strong enough (note, I’m not a structural engineer), just whack loads of them in!

Thanks for this! Seems like this is a whole specialism in of itself, right? Seems like it’d be best to get this done separately as the guy I’m using didn’t mention any of this stuff.

If someone says it’s not possible then no harm in getting another opinion or someone to quote you. Those raised beds aren’t that high, I wouldn’t lose too much sleep about doing this in wood with some decent concrete fixing points and that’ll be plenty to hold up those beds and the fence behind. Is there something pushing the fence from the other side, because you’d expect with concrete fence posts it should be fairly secure?

You could get the fence replaced at the same time with proper gravel boards for where the beds are going up to, and that’ll help the whole thing as well, but obviously that’s adding more ££

Also just to add the opinion of someone who has one collapsed and one collapsing wall holding back raised earth in his garden you always have the option of just letting them collapse over the course of several years, and then if you can be arsed, shovelling the earth back in and redoing the wall. It’s only mud, it’s not going anywhere.


Fair enough that you’re eschewing this over-engineered patter about concrete and hefty sleepers. But let’s not write the project off entirely.

Rob a few For Sale signs. Ram 'em straight into the ground as far as you can manage with your sledgehammer. Saw 'em all off at a height to suit. Cadge a few scaffold boards. They’re the wall for ya beds. Stack 'em on the soil side of the posts and they’ll stay pinned in place without technicalities such as nails or screws. Drill a few weep holes in. Let the kids have at it with some brushes and tins of Ronseal. Bish bash bosh. Leave the fence well alone. Touch that and you’ve a neighbor dispute on your hands.

Just lifted a fence panel up and had a peep, turns out the garden behind me is a few feet higher than mine, i.e. the flower bed in my garden is at the same level as their garden. So the fence panels at the back are just stuck into the boundary but not all the way to the floor level of my garden it seems.

Feels like if I’m going to go to the expense of replacing the raised bed supports in my garden (which will have to be very sturdy) I might as well just replace the fence behind them instead, and then have a small bed that’s independent of the back fence instead, so I have a bit more flexibility in future if I want to change things again.

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Appreciate the chaos of these two replies :+1:


Getting house painted and have scaffolding up and the scaffolders and painter have said the roof is looking pretty old. Getting some roofers in for a quote but reckon they will be all “need a new roof mate!” because they are roofers…
Probably about 80 years old (which is apparently their shelf life) but pretty much any picturesque village will be stuffed with houses with a roof like this

And my roof doesn’t look like that. Quite a few cracked tiles etc on mine but no leaks…
So what’s the deal with those completely ancient looking clay roofs? What’s the deal with them eh?!

I’m struggling to think of anything less suited to a DIY thread :wink:

cheers. ummed and arrrred for ages then ripped the annoying wire out and the internet still works

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I’d be planning to save/finance a new roof if you plan to be in the house for a while. That way you have the money in place for if it fails. New roof isn’t just about leaks but about ventilation and insulation etc etc so there’ll be other benefits to getting it sorted. No harm getting some quotes so you know what you’re looking at and if there’s anything critical