I’d love to know what Pavement got paid. Bet it was the same budget as the other weekends, but they were getting 90% of it or something.

And with reason given the sales.

It’s not a bad line up. And they probably did spend the same budget on those line ups but had to spend a lot on Pavement/MBV, as you say.

Now the 2012 Shellac ATP line up, that really took the piss/milked the fanbase. Must have cost a fraction of The National one to host.

That Shellac ATP was pants, they even ran out of beer and cider!

Didn’t go but my mates said it was a proper low point. Think that’s when they lost a lot the faith of even the real hardcore ATPers

I had been to 4 ATP’s prior to the Shellac one, and they had all been good - fantastic, but other than Melt Banana and Buke & Gase I couldn’t really identify another part of it which I’d call particularly good. The line up had low drawing power, the atmosphere was non existent for the most part, the fact they ran out of beer + cider by SATURDAY at the venue was ridiculous (though probably more to do with Pontins, and it just felt like such a non event. Easily the worst festival I’ve attended.

That Shellac NBC was great IMO. Lots of odd and interesting bands to see, including Bear Claw who I knew of and was quite excited to see live.

Don’t really recall them running out of beer, tbh.

I don’t recall the exact bar situation but distinctly remembering the majority of its stock being exhausted apart from some bottles and Carlsberg? I think, everything else on tap had largely ran out at the main stage early on.

The main fuckup was when they demanded EVERYONE in the chalet come in with you to get their wristbands for some crappy reason. So even though we were there fairly early, we were standing in the cold for ages and missed that very first opening Shellac set.

Theo’s just exposed himself as a Carlsberg man

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My wife was pregnant that time so I probably was drinking very little. Did they not find any ale stands like at Minehead that time? I was probably just on dark rum and coke, tbh.

Oh yeah, I remember that distinctly because one of our lodgers had to wait to get his wristband for ages as he technically belonged to another chalet.

MBV ATP was shit

Nuh-uh.
Only crap thing was missing De la Soul who were on really early on the Friday iirc

I only ever managed to attend one ATP, the Nightmare Before Christmas that Thurston Moore curated in 2006. I desperately wanted to go to the Mike Patton curated one a couple of years later but couldn’t persuade anyone to go with me.

was always the case at ATP on friday for me. spend most of the day schlepping there, miss the opening 3 bands. by the time you’ve got your shit together and had a couple beers you caught the headliner. everyone who played early on friday got a raw deal. i remember they had to put battles on twice at one because everyone missed them

Was that at mars volta? Think someone dropped out as well (which is why jai alai savant got two sets as well)

yeah probably was, seemed to happen quite frequently on fridays though because a lot of people travelled up late on the friday. seen some woefully attended friday sets.

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Saw about ten minutes of Broadcast that way.

Constantines at EITS (and Mono I think) were like that.

Also Alan Vega at Dirty Three I think

that weekend was incredible fun