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Might it be a bit like unused or commented out functions in computer code? The work to remove doesn’t benefit the system directly so they never get taken out even if it’s technically more resource intensive to retain them over time, in the absence of pressure to remove they just stay. They’re still functional just not required anymore, but a simple change could drop it back in, even if accidental / unintended.

And unused code does have effects on the system as a whole, it’s maintainability, the ease with which you can describe the system etc. but if you just treat code like a discrete thing separate from it’s use then maybe not

I think we should have a dis science ā€œtalksā€ series

Or a blog series or something

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Epimer can go first

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That would be if it was (mostly) vestigial but it’s even simpler than that.

Say there’s a sequence like the first one above, a coding region. Then there’s 1000 C. Then there’s another coding region. If you conceptualise DNA as being a linear line of code, then that’s two unrelated coding sections separated by a load of junk.

But a DNA molecule in your cell isn’t a straight line. It’s a very tightly wound ball of yarn. It’s spaghetti wrapped around a meatball. So, in fact, those two coding regions might actually be adjacent in physical space, even with 1000 base pairs between them, and that might be crucial for them to code what they’re supposed to. And in that case, the function of the 1000 C units is to provide a flexible backbone linking the two coding sections together in space, that can reversibly attach from the meatball when the coding regions need to be read together.

The 1000 C units are never going to be a coding region. But they have an absolute vital function, based on their physicochemical properties, and they’re certainly not ā€œjunkā€ or useless.

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Although there is a good coding analogy here - it can be that the second coding region is commented out by default, and the function of the first coding region is to remove the block comments under certain conditions, that the ā€œjunkā€ DNA sequence responds to.

The use of ā€œmeatballā€ here made this very much easier to understand

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Can’t not see that as spaghetti and meatballs

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If the patent life goes tits up, you’d make a great scicomm person!

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I’ve only got pasta analogies. DNA? Spaghetti and meatballs. Red blood cell? Disgusting ravioli. Solar panels? Photovoltaic lasagna.

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Old Blue Last, doors 7pm etc

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Good thread. I want to get more into science

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Does the chirality of chemicals come under this heading?

Me too, I love science. I lied on my personal statement to get into my degree that I liked reading the nature journal, maybe I should actually read it

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It does!

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Also this reminds me one of my students had I LOVE PUSSY on his book and I had to black out pussy and write SCIENCE underneath :pensive:

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I think Neal Stephenson’s Anathem used this iirc amongst quantum and other things

Somehow missed it at the time, but the In Our Time episode on Heisenberg’s uncertainty principle is really really good

They’ve cracked teeth

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I wish I could concentrate on work and listen to these at the same time

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