#387

However I think like a lot of things these days everyone is piling on and are getting a bit overboard with criticism.
I’m sure the venue meant well when they announced it but maybe didn’t think it through.

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#388

Would usually agree as there is a problem with the pile on criticism that comes from the safety of internet caves. Although the 100 club has been so churlish that I think it’s justified in this example

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#389

That’s the thing, isn’t it. It’s not the internet’s way to take a step back and say “sorry guys, we meant well with this, but there’s a whole host of valid points we simply hadn’t thought about. We’re going to go away and come back later with some new thoughts.”. Instead we typically get a load of doubling down.

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#390

Pas de réponse sur Twitter jusqu’ici mais they came on at 9pm in Bristol last night and 8.30pm in Glasgow. No mention at all of a support. I would get there no later than 8.30pm.

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#391

Cheers.

It’s sold out. The 100 Club is crap when sold out. I’ll grab a pint with mate elsewhere beforehand and get there for 8:30pm.

Have a great gig. Thanks again.

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#392

I tried Instagram just now - will let you know if they reply.

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#393

True but to be fair the exact same argument played out a few months ago with Slaves which makes it extra frustrating having to go through it all again

#394

They’ll share the set times, but not the date of the gig.

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#395

Turn up at 8.40 every evening, until you get it right.

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#396

Or at the very least, they’re usually easy to find on the venue’s website. and holy shit are they punctual out here!

When Slaves did this, it was well-intentioned but stupid. In this instance, it feels a bit

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#397

oh that is LIQUID use of nathan, bravo

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#398

aha! The definitely are punctual, when I saw Goat Girl last year, I left the house at 7:30 and was back at 9:15!

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#399

A fairly balanced take from the Guardian here

#400

Ironically, the Savages gig at The 100 Club that ^that article has as its lead photo was an album launch party at 9 in the morning from memory.

Would deffo have missed that without set times…

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#401

The cheap beer thing really irks me. Fine if you have the cheapest pint of Becks around but, don’t call it beer I don’t know anybody who would choose Becks as their go to alcoholic beverage.

If you are wanting people to be in your venue for longer and buy alcoholic drinks have a decent selection. People are probably going to other places beforehand because their drinks selection is poor.

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#402

It’s good that the article points out the 100 Club website doesn’t even list the support acts, let alone promote them. The debate about buying drinks as a means of generating income for venues sort of distracts from the much more pertinent points about people’s needs and the logistical issues around attending a gig (work, dinner, babysitting, last train home etc). This could have been better emphasised imo. Besides, these may be factors negatively impacting a venue’s ability to attract punters and generate income in the first place.

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#403

I felt it left it on an entirely reasonable tone, which was good:

"The tweets about the disability issues, babysitters, working late, and people living a long way away, I am in tune with that,” Horton says. “And I hadn’t been thinking about that when I tweeted. But we will take into consideration those concerns – the last thing we need to do is push away customers.”

#404

thing is, one or two venues near me, including one that’s closed and reopened a couple of times, have posted about the importance of buying a drink or a coffee (if you can) while you’re at events to help them stay afloat and that’s encouraging, makes you think “yeah, I wanna help out.”

whereas “we’re going to try and trick you into being here for longer so you buy more drinks and we’re going pretend it’s all for a different reason, in support of a different course that our website suggests we actually don’t care a great deal about” will not generate much goodwill in that regard.

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#405

i think another important point that’s lost here is that if i’m going to a gig and there are no stage times posted, it’s mildly annoying/inconvenient but fair enough, i don’t think too much more about it.

it’s more the lofty announcement that they’re deliberately stopping because we’re all badly behaved children that rankles.

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