#238

Thank goodness for that. Wales were unbelievably cynical in the last 10 minutes there

#239

Oof

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#240

Oooft

#241

Jonathan Davies at 70 mins: “Wales have been so well disciplined all tournament” :smiley:

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#242

Aargh!

Taking a leaf out of Scotland’s book - talk about snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

Fair play to France though, they came alive after the red card.

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#243

Really don’t think they were at all, particularly being two players down. Incredibly tense game throughout tbh

#244

They were 2 players down because they were playing so cynically!

Edit: they even should have had a third off

#245

The stuff that the ref let go in that last 20 minutes was nuts considering the number of penalties he did give against Wales.

The French Red card was the result of them having to clear out a ruck in extremis with Welsh players in at the side and off their feet, on the a penalty advantage for other offences.

#246

This was the most disappointing thing looking at it dispassionately, the lack of discipline at the end. You’re right that Wyn Jones would’ve had a yellow card if the other two hadn’t been binned already.

Ah, well. Just have to hope Scotland do us a favour next we… actually what am I saying.

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#247

Huge LOLS at Matt Dawsons column today talking about how the weekends events will haunt Wales for years. Then this nugget about England.

“Look what they did to France when they [beat them in the fourth round] and look what France are doing generally. England are at that level”

No they’r not. Don’t kid yourself. Back to Question of Sport you go…

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#248

“Remember that time we almost fluked the Grand Slam after being bang average for most of the games? I’ll simply never get over it”

That England chat is disgraceful :smiley: They’re exactly in the table position they deserve to be in.

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#249

The standard of Rugby analysis and punditry in major publications is very poor tbh, lots of ex-players who played at high levels seem to have ridiculous blind spots. On the flipside, the good ones who know what they’re talking about get bogged down in the minutiae and can produce 1500 words about one lineout. Really hard to get an objective, big picture view

#250

Bang average no, not at our best - yes.

#251

“Most of the tournament” is maybe an overstatement but definitely were vs Ireland and Scotland, maybe vs England too

#252

maybe, shows how bad England have been I guess. I had to laugh at Sir Clive saying France were the first decent team England had faced. Such a tool that man.

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#253

Yeah beating and finishing ahead of England has been the one bright spot in an otherwise frustrating campaign for Scotland. And England have been easily the worst team outside of Italy.

What’s your opinion on Pivac? For the first 2 games everyone I spoke to seemed to think he wasnt cut out for the job, then he nearly went and won the grand slam but now they collapsed in the last 10 minutes so it’s hard to know what people think?

#254

I’m no expert on tactics or anything. I guess he managed to turn it around from the autumn which was awful. Discovered a few really great new young players who’ve made a mark in the 6 nations as well. He’s done ok so far. Barring that last 10 minutes we would have won the GS and even if it wasn’t playing that well would we have cared? not a bit!

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#255

Apart from a few great performances (Zammit jumps out) don’t think we’ve played great across the tournament. Although (without trying to preempt the result this week) no way did we deserve for it to finish like that. Haven’t had a chill run through me watching tv since the red wedding scene in GOT. Haunted by it.

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#256

I was impressed with what he did at the Scarlets, and you can see he’s trying to get Wales playing in a similar way. It’s still early days, but given the low expectations after the results in the Autumn, it’s fairly promising I think. Definitely seemed to improve as the tournament went on as well (last 10 minutes on Saturday aside)

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#257

I have no idea what you are saying here :smiley: