I always assumed sampling (as we know it) started at the New York block parties in the 70s, so guess it would have been something to do with Grandmaster Flash maybe…?

bet it’s some novelty kids record from the 40s/50s

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That was just turntables and loop tapes though. Actual samplers were well pricey at that time. Only rich people like Kate Bush and Peter Gabriel could afford things like Fairlights

I suppose it depends how you define sampling really. A Melatron is kind of a sampler

yeah those are pretty cool

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God sampled Adam’s ribs to made Eve

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delicious

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Was thinking more of the rappers using backing tracks e.g. Rapper’s Delight / Good Times

They rerecorded the bits of good times they used for that though - no sampling involved (sorry I’m aware I’m being a pedantic knob)

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I was thinking about starting a thread of songs that give a nod to other songs, not necessarily sampling them as such.

Like the bit in Come On! Feel the Illinoise! etc that has the Close To Me by the Cure towards the end.

Or the end of Silkworm’s Raised by Tigers that uses the riff from In The Mouth a Desert by Pavement.

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Cromagnon were using them on their album released in 1969;

The album’s a really interesting listen even if a lot of it is rubbish, just because of how ahead of their time they were.

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something really funny about an album called “orgasm” getting renamed to “cave rock”

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How were they doing them though - tape loops ? (The wiki doesn’t say)

Dunno. I can ask their next of kin?

Do you think composers nicking themes off each other counts as sampling? Like if Mozart throws in a little Bach arpeggio or something.

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Dvorák’s New World Symphony ‘borrowed’ themes from old spiritual melodies and built around them, using them in different settings.

I used this in a lesson once comparing this to modern sampling. Got the fuckers right interested in classical music, as everyone should be.

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yeah I guess before recorded music it was necessary to borrow and reference motifs etc, like oral tradition of folk music and the like

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Funny this should show up - I was going to record a mix tonight of an hour’s worth of songs that Saint Etienne sampled. I’ll post up a link when it’s up. Wilson off of Foxbase Alpha is so called because it samples Wilson Pickett’s cover of Hey Jude, but you don’t see a songwriting credit for Lennon or McCartney. Nothing Can Stop Us massively rips off a Dusty Springfield tune. And @NeilYoung will shit his pants when he hears about Only Love Can Break Your Heart*.

*yes, yes, I know it’s a cover not a sample.

Been listening to From Here We Go Sublime a lot this week, and looked into the samples a bit more.

I always knew that Everday samples “Everywhere” by Fleetwood Mac, and obviously A Paw in My Face is Lionel Ritchie, but just read yesterday about some of the other ones…

Never realised that Silent

is built on samples of

Over the Ice is even more obvious once you hear it:

What’s the opposite of over the ice? It’s under the ice, of course!

Still an awesome album, but the idea that one of Axel Wilner basically using Steve Wright in the Afternoon as a source for the first album is definitely quite funny. I don’t know what all the other songs (there’s the Flamingos one at the end, too, obviously), but would love it if there was a Phil Collins song in there or something.