So why could university be free in the 1970s but not today?

brought up in a tutorial today- had always accepted that for reasons there had to be some form of fees, but i guess i’m just a big softie.
yeah man


Plus far fewer people attended university back then.

I mean it was never free was it? It’s just it was funded through taxes right? I personally don’t think the current system is that awful unrest those who choose to go to higher education can do so by having a % of their pay taken out. But this should be taken with a huge grain of salt as I didn’t go to uni

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Because our tax system is completely ineffective and the state has sold off all its assets

That too.

Neoliberalism since the 1980s, and the belief there’s “no such thing as society”. Everyone’s on their own, and has to pay for everything themselves, and everything’s for profit. I’m alright, Jack. Who cares about you povvos. Know your place, and stop trying to get above your station.

Other European countries with similar population numbers to ours, and similar enrollment rates don’t charge the same fees. It’s about political willingness to fund things beneficial to society. Or not, as the case may be.

Education became a business

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how’d u get a scholarship? I’m pretty much gawping at the price of these things

you all sound like a bunch of namby pamby pinkos.

i’m the only pink one here mate

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Too true.

disputing this rich people claim- surely you mean to say fewer poor people went? My father was from a squarely working class family, and says he was only able to go because it was free.



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and bright! University wasn’t for everyone back then. It really is a business now ‘enabling’ everyone to go (money, cough).

hmm, yeah whenever lads I know are doing shit they never applied for or doing balls courses with low entrance grades about playing sport and the history of sport, it does seem to be a scam

It’s a lot about money, business, dreams and debt. University is an ideal way to leave home in a perfect world yet the world (clearly) is not perfect. A degree these days can equal minimum wage jobs all too easily sadly.

yeah i’m peeping out the bubble of academia rn and the real world is looking fucking terrifying, and I did what ppl would call a ‘respectable’ degree

Aim for a 2:1. It shows ability and humanity that a 1st maybe doesn’t. Any lower a grade simply indicates to employers that you went to Uni. Good luck.

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there were mandatory entrance exams to selective schools, then to get to uni you had to be able to navigate academia from there on in. one of my dad’s cousins went to uni in the '70s. he’s a teacher, and genuinely the only person my parents knew who went to uni before new labour brought in admission fees.

don’t think it was all that inclusive, though. my mam was living in abject poverty in an actual victorian slum w/no indoor plumbing but passed an eleven plus and got given a full scholarship. my nanna had to get a third job to pay for her uniform and bus fares. she had her heart set on studying history at uni but never made it there because school was generally disengaging, dehumanising and the teachers actively went out of their way to remind her that she didn’t belong there (i had a similar experiences at public schools), so she left aged 15 to work as a cleaner. /“shoe factory”

*don’t thingk GETTING THERE (i.e. to uni) was all that inclusive