#77

you should give the tenants a chance to respond to the letter before going to their landlord, it’s less inflammatory from their perspective if you’ve actually spoken to them about it first

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#78

yeah I get that, would be my normal inclination, but it is just the added complication of knowing the landlord and being in the management company with them, they might be irked I went to their tenants (like could theoretically jeopardise their income if it went south with them), I have to be on good terms with them for the longterm

#79

you could speak to the tenants first and at the same time let the landlord know that you’ve spoken to them about it, that way you’re keeping the landlord up to date whilst also giving the tenants the chance to amend their behaviour

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#80

Could speak to landlord and say you’re planning to speak to the tenants, are they happy for you to do that or would they prefer to… doesn’t really get round the issue though if the landlord speaks to them and they get annoyed with you.

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#81

I don’t really mind if the tenants get annoyed with me, for numerous reasons I think they are inconsiderate (the noise, blocking my access to my garden by parking 2 things in one space, putting a basket ball net up by my window). The landlord is already aware of the noise because she is one of the co-freeholders so I asked permission to do the soundproofing, she asked if the tenants were causing a problems, I was a bit too diplomatic and made out it was more of a mutual thing as I am quite noisy too, but she said she would have a word (if she did it made no difference). So worry she might be miffed if I escalate things with the tenants without mentioning it to her first. I would also quite like her to get involved as it is a leasehold property, we all have clauses about not disturbing each other and so I would like those to be abided to, think if I mention that myself (as presumably my lease conditions would be the same as the ones anyone living there) it would be crossing a line, acting like im their landlord

#82

I really think you should try talking to them about it in person first. People generally respond better to this kind of thing when it comes from a person. Where do you live? I’ll come and do it for you tbh. We could work out what you want to say together and then I can say it*
Letters have their time and place but as a first communication I think it could quite possibly get your neighbours backs up.

*totally genuine offer as long as you don’t live 300 miles away.

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#83

Sorry I took ages to type this. I had the impression you hadn’t spoken to them at all. Not sure that’s correct?

#84

i’ve mentioned it to their landlord once, not as a direct complaint but because I needed to ask their permission to do the soundproofing as a co-freeholder (as I thought it might involve getting under the floorboards, near their ceiling). i’ve not mentioned it to the tenants, feel like there is bad faith as when I first moved in and met them they told me they’d have no problems from them as they were really quiet, they must have known that is not true you can hear their tv from half way up the streets, and they are constantly shouting at their tv.

thanks for your offer but I think a letter is the way to go, I will keep it very polite

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#85

also wonder if they saw the ‘sound proofing r us’ (not real name) van here all day tuesday and thought ‘great now we can really crank things up’

#86

I’ve drafted a letter:

Shut the fuck up or I will cut youse

#87

you fucking plum

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#89

I do think it is excessive, the main problems are computer games (silence interrupted by booming explosions and machine gun fire that is very hard to tune out), and shouting (at computer games and football viewing) at the kind of levels you would expect at a pub or actual football match. generally they are extremely rowdy. in terms of times, during the week they aren’t too bad, turn in quite early. at the weekends they are quite often up until gone 1am with the same level of shouting and rowdiness. another annoying thing is they seem to always be here, wouldn’t be so bad if when I had some time off I could get some peace and quiet but they always seem to be here, like there isn’t a room in my flat where I can just sit and read without being bothered my machine gun sounds and shrieking

#90

in which case go and knock on their door and speak to them about it, you definitely owe them the opportunity to change before grassing to their landlord

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#91

dont think I owe them anything

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#92

Seriously man it really seems like 100% the best chance of getting what you want and not sinking a bunch more cash is to talk to them face to face. A letter is easily ignored and can come across passive-aggressive, and speaking and letting them know your point of view surely has a decent chance of working. If that doesn’t work then it’s landlord time.

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#93

i’ve rearranged my living room, seems to have helped quite a lot, think the rowdy shouting comes up through the external wall so I have put my tv and stereo on that side of the room, and I think it masks it a lot better there, dont have to turn things up as loud to counteract them which makes my room more relaxing. i’m trying to convince myself the soundproofing has done something, the computer games noise is now like a low rumbling thunderstorm rather than more distracting sounds. can avoid confrontation for now. guess the problem is now my tv/stereo are by the wall that seems to be a problem so maybe I am bothering them and I am now the jovial lad

#94

fuck 'em

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#95

fear they will rearrange their room in response, and we will go round in circles

#96

Just install a giant lazy Susan in your living room.

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#97

they might get one two and then we are constantly spinning round trying to out run each other adding a pleasant leslie speaker effect to the noise

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