Can’t you get vinylses cut so that the groove winds in then winds back out then winds in then winds back out then winds in then winds back out then winds in then winds back out then winds in then winds back out then winds in then winds back out then winds in then winds back out then winds in then winds back out then winds in then winds back out then winds in then winds back out then winds in then winds back out then winds in then winds back out then winds in then winds back out then winds in then winds back out then winds in then winds back out then winds in then winds back out then winds in then winds back out then winds in then winds back out then winds in then winds back out then winds in then winds back out then winds in then winds back out then winds in then winds back out then winds in then winds back out then winds in then winds back out then winds in then winds back out then winds in then winds back out then winds in then winds back out then winds in then winds back out then winds in then winds back out then winds in then winds back out then winds in then winds back out then winds in then winds back out then winds in then winds back out then winds in then winds back out then winds in then winds back out then winds in then winds back out then winds in then winds back out then winds in then winds back out then winds in then winds back out then winds in then winds back out then winds in then winds back out then winds in then winds back out then winds in then winds back out then winds in then winds back out then winds in then winds back out then winds in then winds back out then winds in then winds back out then winds in then winds back out then winds in then winds back out then winds in then winds back out then winds in then winds back out then winds in then winds back out then winds in then winds back out then winds in then winds back out then winds in then winds back out then winds in then winds back out then winds in then winds back out then winds in then winds back out then winds in then winds back out then winds in then winds back out then winds in then winds back out again?

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I buy everything on iTunes. The sound quality is good enough on what I listen to and it’s just more work to record the vinyl to make it into a digital file on my NAS.

You know what yeah Spotify has a few problems, a couple glitches and thinking that 2fa is “non essential”

But fucking hell I pay €9.99 a month to have all the music I could ever want. I spent near enough one in every ten minutes of this year so far with some kind of song playing on this service.

Plus I’m supporting a independent European technology company who started the industry instead of the cash grabbing giants like Apple and Google coming in.

There are so damn many artists I love that I would never have found, I would not be a Pop Punk fan without Spotify, and Pop Punk is basically my life now. Spotify got me through so much shit. The best and the worst. For like €0.00 a month.

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Enjoy all those artists not getting paid enough to buy a pint of milk with a 1000 Shitify plays etc etc.

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On the upside can just get everyone you know to stream it on mute night and day - £££££
Also artists are screwed on vinyl sales too tbf

Would rather that than have music be the exclusive preserve of people who can afford to spend £20 on a record.

I honestly don’t know what percentage vinyl sales generate for artists but all I see constantly is bands and artists rallying against spotify rather than any other format.

Most of the artists I like are dead.

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Do all records cost 20quid? and if spotify continues to underpay people massively they won’t be able to afford to make music anyway…

I was having a discussion on the ethics of piracy with a friend the other day and my argument was that there’s nothing wrong with pirating music if the artist (or, in the case of a band, the song’s composer[s]) are dead. The way I see it, artists deserve to be paid for music they made that I enjoy, but for example, if I’m a fan of Miles Davis, I have no qualms with torrenting his entire back catalogue, because he’s dead, and I feel no moral obligation to put money in the pockets of his family nor those of the recording studio, especially considering the way recording studios have been taking advantage of musicians and consumers alike for decades. Our copyright laws need to be completely revamped to invalidate copyrights after a certain number of years, or the holder’s death, so that their works can get put into the public domain, to contribute more effectively to the cultural capital of our society.

I also personally believe that there’s nothing wrong with torrenting old works of extremely rich artists that have already made them more than enough money (so, for example, I don’t feel bad torrenting the Dire Straits discography, but every time Mark Knopfler puts out a new solo album I still buy it). The $15 in my pocket goes a much longer way for me than it does for someone the likes of, say, Roger Waters, so I don’t feel a moral obligation to contribute a raindrop of money into the ocean of his wealth if I want to listen to The Wall, knowing that it’s the fourth best-selling album of all time. I’d much rather use the limited disposable income I have supporting struggling contemporary artists that haven’t broken into the mainstream.

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I bought one record this year directly from a label in the US. It cost about £35 including shipping. I’m glad the label and band are getting paid but I can’t afford to spend that much every time I hear something I like.

Summary: all music should be free and the government should subsidise the artists.

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no of course, I agree, I’m not against Spotify as an idea, or any streaming, its just the amount artists get paid that takes the piss. Surely we all agree on that?!

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The 128k bit rate streamers are the snobs!!??

Dis has M Night Shyamalan-ed itself.

:wink::smiley::joy:

it sees dead people?

The model is deeply flawed but I’m always going to be in favour of something that makes music more accessible to more people.

Dead ‘artists’.
A silly plot twist really.

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Agreed.

It’s not just deeply flawed, its bordering on being exploitative

These comments from Reddit have finally proffered up some truth!

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If you play Everything She Wants by Wham it unlocks a magical playlist of 80s bangers. Wouldn’t happen with a 7", that.

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