I think statistically they are the parents/grandparents in this situation though. If I remember rightly the older you were the more likely you were to vote for Brexit, irrespective of class/financial situation/location etc.

I agree with this though.

And also that the Remain campaign couldn’t articulate why it would be great to stay vs the leave campaign offering whatever flavour of Brexit the individual in question wanted. After all, if you’re already angry at the status quo (for whatever reason) why would “let’s stay the same!” have any attraction to you?

Or to put it even more simply, if you tell people often enough that the country (and possibly their life) is shit because of the EU and then offer them the chance to vote to leave the EU then many of them will choose that option. And that also explains the widespread ignorance of the consequences.

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this is true.

The simplest message is usually the most effective.

Most people don’t have the time or interest to look into politics that deeply and human beings are terrible at truly understanding change until it happens anyway. How many climate change things have we kicked down the road over the years and just shrugged our collective shoulders at for example?

yeah that’s fair enough I suppose.

I don’t know what the answer is.

it’s going to be a shame when all the nice people with money leave the country and just shit on it from a distance though :frowning:

That radio 4 thing today seemed pretty good. Examples of boris’s old ridiculous anti eu headlines and stuff.

think it’s also worth remembering there’s loads of inequalities here that being in the EU has done very little to fix

Surely Moggy will eventually leave once people start actually trying to lynch him?

and also worth considering that maybe it isn’t the EU’s responsibility to fix inequality in our country.

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yeah that’s undeniably true I guess what I’m getting at is that had the majority voted to stay there’d still be tonnes of homeless people and 0 hour contracts, etc and so forth but unlikely that we’d have hundreds of posts in a thread about it.

goes back to the whole thing about “how much money should you be able to earn?” people are interested because it’s their lives affected

FTFY

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this is a shame though

There are lots of lengthy threads about politics and the effects of political decisions on here.

didn’t notice too much widespread hating on the UK until the brexit vote really

Although weirdly it sort of was… large swathes of northern England and Wales received EU funding from being some of the most deprived areas of Europe. Tragically of course those areas were then the ones to vote leave in higher numbers.

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Well, you yourself said

people don’t have the time or interest to look into politics that deeply

so maybe you just missed it all.

yeah I’m not saying I’m exempt from blame here

Not too sure that you can claim that. It’s pretty even between the areas hardest hit by austerity, and comfortable baby boomers living outside of the cities.

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we’re all hypocrites

I guess at a certain point you have to accept that as part of the human condition