#23

Loving everyone having their own accent

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#24

he was fit as fuck m9

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#25

and had a snazzy neckerchief

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#26

Yes he did, and the famine in the early 30s he was more than a little responsible for killed millions more. It could be argued he was responsible for more deaths than any other individual in the 20th Century, which was a pretty hotly contested competition.

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#27

Ok cool, this is what I thought. I’m still not really sure if people think “but this is good because communism” or they’re just being edgelords

#28

ban request for anyone who perpetuates the “meme” about Stalin being hot and light-hearted takes on this genocidal fuck.

#29

whats with all the Soviet satire nowadays

#30

edgelords, definitely. he was a fucking sociopath. he once pulled a bank job that went so badly wrong two dozen people died. he killed peasants, persecuted ethnic minorities, robbed, murdered, betrayed people he’d known all his life. all before he even got into power.

it’s arguable he wasn’t even a communist anyway by 1917. him and lenin both took a pretty right-wing view of labour movements if they were. these are pretty interesting takes from mr noam chomsky:

just can’t get behind the tankie weirdoes who are trying to rehabilitate a monster.

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#31

yes, thanks mate, knew you’d make sense of this for me! :slight_smile: will defo give those videos a look, love a bit of Chomsky.

yeah just find the tone of a lot of that humour really weird. like you see people with DPRK flags in their handles and profile pics of Maduro ffs

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#32

Just watched the trailer, doesnt look that good actually tbh.

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#33

i find it baffling too. they venerate really evil wankers in a world where thomas sankara, the YPG, even che at a push, actually achieved/are achieving great revolutionary things. the YPG are literally destroying fascism with guns and radical politics in the middle east, and they’re replacing it with a matriarchal socialist/anarchist way of organising their society. that’s a real cause the tankies could go fight for if they were serious, but i guess it’s more important for them to piss off their parents/uni lecturers/guardian columnists on twitter. :roll_eyes:

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#34

Fucking tedious idea that the left that always have to be pious and earnest mind
Not saying this kinda thing’s in good taste but that’s the exact point

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#35

Granted there are probably some people who do venerate Stalin but I think it’s probably more to do with the ideals the revolution was actually founded on. Not to mention the incredibly autocratic Tsarist regime that predicated marxist-leninism.

#36

Yeah the horrors of the Soviet Union are pretty loudly shouted about, but it shouldn’t be overlooked that it also took Russia from what was essentially a medieval feudal system into space in less than 50 years.

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#37

What sort of pro-Stalin stuff are we talking about? I mean if it’s just posting young Stalin and talking about how fit he was I always took this to be about purposefully raising the point that you can’t just accept people are one thing.

#38

This is on my to-read list:

#39

That looks interesting cheers, there’s also a documentary on the Russian Revolution on Netflix which is alright, I mean it probably places too much importance on Rasputin but it’s otherwise a decent enough summary.

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#40

@hip_young_gunslinger @1101010

oh sure, no problem at all with anything you guys are saying. i mean it is a beautiful idea still, and did a lot for the people. i guess i just have a problem more with actual 2017 stalinists. there’s a lot of em lurking on the web and they’re pretty sincere in their belief that all the purges and murders and erasures were justified, even when they were carried out against peasant anarchist movements or soviet councils further to the left than the bolsheviks, etc. fuck that. totally with noam chomsky saying the revolution was hijacked by ultimately pretty right-wing state capitalists.

the spanish anarchists/YPG for me clive.

h_y_g: that book looks great. love the soviet art style.

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#41

Oh yeah, I see what you’re saying. I think I wouldn’t ever really have noted they were specifically Stalinists, just class them in that Bernie Bro / Ultra-left / Lexit / fuckwit box.

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#42

agree.

a lot of the guys you’re on about, even if they don’t self-identify as stalinists, they’re generally middle-class, comfortable white boys talking about destroying “the state” in the same way stalin and lenin did, where the suffering that’ll cause will only happen to other people so it’s nothing to really worry about cos it isn’t happening to “your” guys, the “correct” people. that and apologising for totalitarian regimes totally undermines their claim to being socialists and they can’t seem to grasp that. nihilist dickbags.

i’m ranting now :slight_smile:

plus all this revisionism for machines that persecuted minorities within minorities…:nauseated_face:

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