and had a snazzy neckerchief

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Yes he did, and the famine in the early 30s he was more than a little responsible for killed millions more. It could be argued he was responsible for more deaths than any other individual in the 20th Century, which was a pretty hotly contested competition.

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Ok cool, this is what I thought. I’m still not really sure if people think “but this is good because communism” or they’re just being edgelords

ban request for anyone who perpetuates the “meme” about Stalin being hot and light-hearted takes on this genocidal fuck.

whats with all the Soviet satire nowadays

edgelords, definitely. he was a fucking sociopath. he once pulled a bank job that went so badly wrong two dozen people died. he killed peasants, persecuted ethnic minorities, robbed, murdered, betrayed people he’d known all his life. all before he even got into power.

it’s arguable he wasn’t even a communist anyway by 1917. him and lenin both took a pretty right-wing view of labour movements if they were. these are pretty interesting takes from mr noam chomsky:

just can’t get behind the tankie weirdoes who are trying to rehabilitate a monster.

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yes, thanks mate, knew you’d make sense of this for me! :slight_smile: will defo give those videos a look, love a bit of Chomsky.

yeah just find the tone of a lot of that humour really weird. like you see people with DPRK flags in their handles and profile pics of Maduro ffs

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Just watched the trailer, doesnt look that good actually tbh.

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i find it baffling too. they venerate really evil wankers in a world where thomas sankara, the YPG, even che at a push, actually achieved/are achieving great revolutionary things. the YPG are literally destroying fascism with guns and radical politics in the middle east, and they’re replacing it with a matriarchal socialist/anarchist way of organising their society. that’s a real cause the tankies could go fight for if they were serious, but i guess it’s more important for them to piss off their parents/uni lecturers/guardian columnists on twitter. :roll_eyes:

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Fucking tedious idea that the left that always have to be pious and earnest mind
Not saying this kinda thing’s in good taste but that’s the exact point

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Granted there are probably some people who do venerate Stalin but I think it’s probably more to do with the ideals the revolution was actually founded on. Not to mention the incredibly autocratic Tsarist regime that predicated marxist-leninism.

Yeah the horrors of the Soviet Union are pretty loudly shouted about, but it shouldn’t be overlooked that it also took Russia from what was essentially a medieval feudal system into space in less than 50 years.

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What sort of pro-Stalin stuff are we talking about? I mean if it’s just posting young Stalin and talking about how fit he was I always took this to be about purposefully raising the point that you can’t just accept people are one thing.

This is on my to-read list:

That looks interesting cheers, there’s also a documentary on the Russian Revolution on Netflix which is alright, I mean it probably places too much importance on Rasputin but it’s otherwise a decent enough summary.

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@hip_young_gunslinger @1101010

oh sure, no problem at all with anything you guys are saying. i mean it is a beautiful idea still, and did a lot for the people. i guess i just have a problem more with actual 2017 stalinists. there’s a lot of em lurking on the web and they’re pretty sincere in their belief that all the purges and murders and erasures were justified, even when they were carried out against peasant anarchist movements or soviet councils further to the left than the bolsheviks, etc. fuck that. totally with noam chomsky saying the revolution was hijacked by ultimately pretty right-wing state capitalists.

the spanish anarchists/YPG for me clive.

h_y_g: that book looks great. love the soviet art style.

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Oh yeah, I see what you’re saying. I think I wouldn’t ever really have noted they were specifically Stalinists, just class them in that Bernie Bro / Ultra-left / Lexit / fuckwit box.

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agree.

a lot of the guys you’re on about, even if they don’t self-identify as stalinists, they’re generally middle-class, comfortable white boys talking about destroying “the state” in the same way stalin and lenin did, where the suffering that’ll cause will only happen to other people so it’s nothing to really worry about cos it isn’t happening to “your” guys, the “correct” people. that and apologising for totalitarian regimes totally undermines their claim to being socialists and they can’t seem to grasp that. nihilist dickbags.

i’m ranting now :slight_smile:

plus all this revisionism for machines that persecuted minorities within minorities…:nauseated_face:

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ive never seen a biography of the author written by the author under a book on amazon before. is this a new thing? its definitely not a good thing

Officially, I’ve been a writer of non-fiction for the last twenty years. But when I’m excited by what I’m writing about, what I want to do with my excitement is always to tell a story – and every one of my non-fiction books has borrowed techniques from the novel, and contained sections where I came close to behaving like a novelist. The chapter retelling the story of Captain Scott’s last expedition at the end of “I May Be Some Time”, for example, or the thirty-page version of the gospel story in “Unapologetic”. “Red Plenty” was a kind of documentary novel all the way through. Now, though, I’ve completed my shy, crabwise crawl towards fiction, and have a book coming out which is an honest-to-goodness entirely made-up story. No foot-notes, no invisible scaffolding of facts holding it up: “Golden Hill” (Faber, 2 June 2016) is just a novel. More specifically, it’s an eighteenth century novel. It’s set in the winter of 1746, in what was then the very small British colonial town of New York; but it’s also written like a novel from the eighteenth century. So the story of the charming but unreliable-seeming young Mr Smith, who turns up from London with a document in his pocket that may be a fraud or may be worth a fortune, is as hectically stuffed with event as it would have been if Fielding or Smollett had written it. Eighteenth-century readers expected to get their money’s worth, and “Golden Hill” contains (among other things) a mystery, a political intrigue, a love story, a ball, a duel, a high-stakes card game, a trial, a dash of horror, a play-within-a-play, some surprisingly graphic sex and a rooftop chase. As a slow writer, I enjoyed working on something that runs fast. It was intricate fun devising and winding up the book’s clockwork. But I hope it’s also a story that feels alive, and makes the past feel alive too, while Mr Smith runs for his life, and the snow falls on Manhattan Island. There is a tumblr for it at golden-hill.tumblr.com.

(Okay, biography. I was born in 1964, I’m married with a ten-year-old daughter, and I teach on the MA in Creative and Life Writing at Goldsmiths College, London.)

I don’t know, lots of authors have pages on Amazon with some biographical info, maybe this is a new thing that pulls it through to a specific book page? And his just happens to be a bit idiosyncratic?

He’s married to my favourite tutor I had at uni, great bunch of lads :+1: