I don’t think that is a contradiction, a criticism that is often thrown at people who dislike TLJ is that we just want a rehash, pointing out much of TLJ is a rehash is to counter that. If someone likes TFA that doesn’t make them a hypocrite because they are not the ones saying rehash is good or bad either way, merely that if it applies to TFA it applies to TLJ.
Personally I thought TFA was a solid enough film that was let down by being so much of a rehash, que the obvious ‘can never be pleased’ criticism, as if rehash and something like TLJ were the only two options and there weren’t actually infinite possibilities
When it comes to any fictional world there is the form of the story and the underlying mechanics of meaning, the form is the surface level plot/characters/settings, and the meaning is the underlying themes and worldview. Many fans like the later to be consistent while enjoying the infinite variations and ways it can play out, I am not speaking for everyone but I am saying this contingent exists and I am one of them, that seems to be the basis of what genre is so it irks me when people talk about it in terms of only wanting ‘safe’ ‘rehashes’, appreciating the craft is equally as valid as appreciating innovation, doesn’t make someone some uncultured luddite.
So for me, and people coming from the same angle, it really was the worst of both worlds, on the surface level where there are infinite possibilities it was a rehash, but it messed with the fundamental spirit of star wars (not saying everyone has to agree with me here, but that is how a lot of people felt). I know people will argue it is actually completely consistent, but for me it is not, star wars was always good vs evil, with basically good people over coming setbacks and insurmountable odds in a swashbuckling adventure. And in my opinion not only does it move away from that it makes out that is stupid (which it is but it is a fantasy film not a gritty documentary). Things like making Po an actual psychopath, and luke a mean spirited curmudgeon just doesn’t sit right with me. So there is a lot being pointing out TLJ is a rehash, both in negating unfair criticism of a position, and pointing out in the area where many would like the most variation TLJ was the most conservative.
anyway I muting the star wars thread. seems to always be the same thing, someone (not you) will make a comment that is judgmental towards people who didn’t like it, i’ll argue why disliking it is valid perspective that should be respected, and then get treated like I have just decided to re-tread old ground for no reason
