#2134

They only just finished filming all the reshoots in November. It’s crazy. The are course correcting so much of it from the Lord-Miller version, which was shitcanned after it was finished… it’s wild.

Michael K Williams filmed a full role and when he wasn’t available for the reshoots they fucking replace him with Paul Bettany. :open_mouth:

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#2135

Also:

We should all meat up at see a movie together.

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#2136

The Holdo thing:

On first viewing, when it was first revealed their ship was being tracked, I thought “Hello, there’s a mole onboard who has planted a tracking beacon.” So, with that in mind, Holdo was quite within her rights not to divulge her plan to anyone she either doesn’t trust or whom is below her in rank. Loose lips and all that (this point still holds up, of course).

As the film continued, I thought we were being set-up for a lazy “OMG, Holdo is working for the First Order!” switch as she’s just burning fuel, powering up defenceless escape pods, keeping schtum etc. Thankfully that didn’t happen but, within the film itself, Holdo might also of thought there was a turncoat onboard thus making her play her cards close to her chest.

Both these things still play out over repeated viewings and made me appreciate her role more. Rian Johnson toyed with us and the pay-off was a heroic Holdo doing the hyperspace smash - lovely!

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#2137

Yeah, I was worried that she was a spy herself. And then when the plan fell into place I was very impressed.

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#2138

The Hyperspace Smash: the sci-fi themed Monster Mash follow up the world needed but sadly never got.

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#2139

23 posts were merged into an existing topic: Solo: A Star Wars Story

#2140

One for the haters

https://m.imgur.com/r/StarWars/6smO9

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#2141

Cairo Len! :grinning::grinning::grinning:

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#2142

out of context comparisons

#2143

for instance, the emperor and snoke are not comparable in this instance, the emperor has very little screen time on the first two films, his role is very much as the devil on Vader’s shoulder in the final confrontation in Jedi, we don’t need to know much about him. Snoke is a central character, given a lot screen time, the characters talk about he corrupted ben, and crucially was introduced in the 7th film after the empire had been presumed defeated so naturally the audience are very curious as to where he came from, who he is and how he got to power in a way that was not important for the original trilogy.

The light speed attack. Don’t think anyone would suggest they should use it against AT-ATs, or that we should have seen it before, it is more that it does kind of change the possibilities of combat that makes it seem like they should have been able to take down star destroyers all over the show. Not that this is a central criticism people have been making, it is way more in the nitpicky type category.

didn’t look at the rest

#2144

Good thread on Luke here

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#2145

that is a decent enough justification. still don’t find it very satisfying personally, I get the ‘he had a moment of weakness in the past, so why not again thing’ but I guess to me that is applying real world logic to story logic. When a character at faces temptation but ultimately overcomes it, and would rather die than succumb to it, it feels really unsatisfying to make the temporary and undermines that original journey, I know real life isn’t like that but stories are simpler that real life. Feel like Luke was done they should have just left him alone. They are right it is is the force awakens fault too, this trilogy just wasn’t really necessary

#2146

maybe you should. It is a holistic piece not one for bits to be taken out of.

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#2147

just seems like the same patronising ‘people who don’t like it are at fault’ kind of stuff

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#2148

It’s specifically attacking a particular sort of negativity towards the film steeped in “This hasn’t happened before therefore it needs to be justified” despite all the films really doing this but the earlier ones are accepted.

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#2149

Guess earlier ones being earlier ones have that freedom, by the eight one introducing new stuff seems inconsistent

#2150

boycott the movies and just read the novels, which are 1000 times better than any of the stupid new movies

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#2151

Well @ttf, I believe the correct term is:

A Challenger Appears

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#2152

their statement seems entirely reasonable

#2153

This is quite a reductive view of literature here, even if we are talking about blockbuster cinema BUT I appreciate not everyone wants the same thing and while I agree these films don’t need to exist, they do, so we might as well see how the last one goes eh?

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