That’s fair. And Fisher’s death probably didn’t help matters either.
Excellent film apart from the casino bit that is complete bobbins
I enjoyed the film but thought the trilogy would be better if JJ got to make all 3
Still can’t believe they started making a trilogy of films with no plan.
There was a plan, it was remake the old trilogy with some new actors and a lightsabre with extra bits. Then they gave the second film to the Knives Out guy for some reason and he fucked it up.
Watched it again recently. So many naff bits but it’s clearly a very well made film that at least has something about it. I forgot it ended on the little force horse boy, remember that exciting me when I saw it in the cinema - thought it’d timeskip to Rey teaching some padawans who would end up having to take on the Knights of Ren. God I hated what we got instead.
Nah could’ve been alright. You have to imagine a reality where Disneycorp don’t own 50% of every IP in existence though
I think there might have been a way to make a sequel trilogy work but it sure as fuck doesn’t involve bringing the emperor back
Star Wars: The Motion Picture through to The Last Jedi is the perfect five film series. Prequels are a fun to watch in-universe dream Luke had once after drinking too much walrusman milk before bed. Rise doesn’t exist.
I’d argue that the knives out guy knew JJ was just doing a lazy retread with some lame chosen one stick. And set up the film’s to be much more interesting direction.
Oh he did, definitely. He should have been in charge in the first place, then we might have gotten an actually worthy sequel trilogy. But that isn’t what happened.
Johnson had to blow up everything JJ did, because all JJ set up was a beat for beat remake of the OT, which he tried to continue anyway in Rise, because he’s a total hack
I agree. Kylo killing Snoke was an amazing moment but if the plan was for Ben to be redeemed then than whole scene shouldn’t have happened. Why they didn’t decide this from the start is beyond me, pretty much everything clunky about TROS could’ve been avoided. I actually think TROS is underrated, I like that they brought all the main characters together for the whole film, it brought a sort of adventure element to it that the other two lacked. Nothing in that film is better than the first 30 minutes of TFA though.
They shouldn’t have redeemed Kylo imo, should’ve turned him into a total monster, vader times 10, have him be the big bad of the last movie
Better that than “somehow, Palpatine returned”
Guy’s just taken over the galaxy, he can feasibly go mad with power
I was ready for that to happen after TLJ, although in the end I loved his redemption in TROS despite how short the scenes were. The best options would’ve been either evil Kylo or redeemed Ben w/ big bad Snoke staying alive until the end. We ended up getting a weird middle ground that didn’t do much for either side.
Yep, it allowed all the characters to bounce off each other. A lot of people hate on them but I thought Rey, Finn and Poe were a great trio who weren’t given enough of a chance to shine - the fact that they were all split for the entirety of TLJ was a huge problem for me. Pretty much ended up wasting Finn as a character as well.
He was very motivated to burn everything down at the end of TLJ - the first order, the resistance, the sith, the Jedi, everything. He could’ve been an almost Thanos-type figure obsessively trying to bring balance to the galaxy and the force, while hunting Rey and trying to convince her to join him as that was the only way to achieve true balance. I dunno, something like that could’ve been interesting! It’s not that different to TROS but just means you wouldn’t need the emperor.
Last Jedi was the best film in the trilogy isn’t even close
Snoke was shite though. Just a bad Palpatine clone even before it turned out he was literally a bad Palpatine clone