Summer 2018 Brexit Thread - Still doomed, but in slightly warmer weather


#1370

hey man a lot of people here have absolutely terrible taste in art


#1371

…and music as well, which obviously isn’t an artform.

(Closes laptop, goes outside).


#1372

Bamnan didn’t ask for recommendations for sites that were arbiters of the national mood; he asked for recommendations for sites to stay informed about Brexit.

The vast majority of people on DiS think the Brexit is a shambles and that Trump is an arsehole in part because we read up and share news, articles etc with others and because we actively seek out information.

EDIT: I mean, that might sound slightly snobby and make me sound like a ‘reasonable’ Remainer, but you’ll learn more from here than any other single news source, I think.


#1373

i mean it is, but for the sort of people who think musicals are high culture, agreed.


#1374

The whole of twitter is people defending Trump and trying to front out Brexit. And pics of dogs swimming.

And it’s those dogs that will no doubt bring me back.


#1375

You’re more than welcome, encouraged even, to contribute to offset this balance. If you don’t like the conversation then at least attempt to change it before castigating those involved.


#1376

Stop following shit people then. You are allowed to curate your own feed so that you stay well-informed.


#1377

So we should start some bot accounts and invite some of the criminally misinformed into the boards to add breadth to the debate?


#1378

I object. I have NO taste in art.


#1379

I’m not saying I don’t agree, I’m saying this isn’t a great place for accurate info. Its a place for people who all agree to share articles proving that they are all right.


#1380

also, as is a favourite pastime of the left, we spend as much time arguing about what flavour of left is good. And DiS made that so popular that now the tories are doing it with the right


#1381

No, I’m saying that it is a mistake to think this is a place for a balanced view. Not saying it’s not nice to be amongst similarly minded people, but don’t think there is any breadth.


#1382

Twitter’s as bad or good as you let it be. Clearly it’s a very toxic platform, and the bots issue is massively understated (it’s clearly millions rather than hundreds), but ultimately it’s up to you who you follow.


#1383

Or do follow shit people to try and work out what is driving the other side of the debate?


#1384

It’s not balanced but it’s not some #FBPE reacharound either.


#1385

Ok. Well why not help Bammers out with some places where there is more accurate info? If we’re not helping him in your view, why don’t you?


#1386

You’re absolutely on point with that criticism, and I think many of us are aware of that. It’s a pity in many ways that a recently , returning ex troll spent so many years being an arsehole dickhead that he can’t be trusted even when he looks like behaving because he could theoretically do an awful lot to address that.


#1387

eeehhhh i dunno man. i think that you CAN post opposing views here, but you’d better be ready to argue it. i used to be amusingly (i hope) liberal-minded but in a centre-rightish kinda way and marckee, desertshore, wza, both colins, guntrip, dd and a whole bunch of others would push me on that, hard. it’s good. your option at that point is to either ignore all the points coming back at you and celebrate a win (moker) or think and change. So it’s less about agreeing to post things we all like and more about having an extremely high vetting process for what’s being brought to the table and going hard with scrutiny


#1388

for sure twitter is annoying af and i don’t care for the number of wankers on there who rack up likes doing performative wokeness takes, you know like “ravioli is cultural appropriation”, “hey drumpf you’re a cheeto idiot dickhead” etc, but there are some very worthwhile smaller accounts to follow to keep up with particular interests. for instance i have found some great independent journos who cover ongoing wars/uk and us foreign policy/grassroots organising/far-left theory, and they cba with all the posturing.

and of course dog and cat accounts always put a smile on the face.


#1389

Been a massive seachange amongst right wing/anti-corbyn people on the netty net this week. They all hate Theresa May now.