I love this idea and been thinking about it for a while, seeing how few new users have been signing up - I thought it would have picked up a bit more during lockdown but mostly it was lapsed users returning.

Anyway, started this thread to kick things off

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i’m enjoying watching the ticker

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I want to donate but I don’t want a stupid music note next to my name just for astheic reasons

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Can I interest you in a smart music note instead?

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*sharp

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I don’t have anything to add on the icons other than to say I think Scout’s contributions are particularly valuable.

But I do have two things on my head about the ā€˜self-funding’ talk going on.

There’s been a general consensus of understanding some people aren’t in a position to donate whilst also saying that people haven’t been donating enough. So it ends up seeming like a ā€˜poor pass’. I can envisage that at times I’m not able to contribute I would feel bad posting about having bought something or about financial commitments I have - that people would think ā€˜well, you’re clearly not poor, so why aren’t you donating’.

People contribute to this forum in different ways. Some people have worked tirelessly to address sexism and racism, others contribute by always supporting people who are having a hard time, some volunteer their own time as moderators or rainy day fund seminars. Those contributions are incredibly valuable in their own way.

The second point is I appreciate not very comfortable. If the vision is to have an entirely self - funding forum, what issues come out of that. That is, to have users pay for the forum entirely, but have no ownership of it and no direct say in how it is managed from a business stand point, what happens to content etc. That one day it could just be taken down with no consultation, or old threads not removed that could save considerable hosting money.

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Some feature ideas around the donation functionality:

  • Have the icon that shows you as a donator to be customisable to use any standard emoji.
  • Give the icon that shows you as a donator an infotip saying why it’s there.
  • Turn the icon that shows you as a donator to a link to the page to donate when you click it.
  • Add the ability to turn the donation icon on / off (already covered).
  • Add notifications / email invoice options for when a donation is made.
  • Add clear T&Cs as to when the donations are taken out, how they’re cancelable etc (already covered).
  • Add an option to Discobot to get it to display current donation stats or something.
  • Include sponsorship options as a default part of the autogenerated forum email & signup process.
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This is quite a huge leap here and I have a bit of cognitive whiplash having carried the can for several years. Can we review in a few years as this is quite a stretch tbh and I know it wasn’t intended as an attack but it kinda feels like one.

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I’m being really dull here, where is the link to subscribe? :grinning:

the emoji is a good idea as that was discussed a few months ago as a way of enabling people to indicate their current mood and help guide people in terms of their response/interaction. However, it borders on having a function that only people who’ve subscribed can access. Maybe mods could provide the functionality to anyone who asks for it, no questions asked.

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it’s at the top of the main page and the bottom of every other one

https://community.drownedinsound.com/s/prod_Jg063tEAVCx0a5

think ^that should be it

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Could do with a nicer version of this URL to share too, ideally https://community.drownedinsound.com/subscribe or something.

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Oh ffs. There is literally a massive button saying Support DiS :rofl:

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Am i being a silly? I can’t see the ticker and i wanna see the ticker :sleepy:

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Yeah, for some reason you can’t see the ticker if you’ve already set up a contribution

EDIT - if you log out and log back in again, it reappears.

Also, over the Ā£400 mark now, that’s good going for the first 24 hours!

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Could you elaborate a bit on what you believe to be a stretch or an attack?

It’s an entirely valid point. It’s not like a podcast subscription where you pay to consume and support individual creators for their time. We’re essentially paying to contribute our own content (in a way) and build a community with no real say in the short or long term plans of the forum. Wiley isn’t attacking or accusing that you’ll rip it all away one day but it’s probably worth discussing if funding the forum gives you any say in anything, or any right to have a say in how it’s run, big or small picture.

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If i support, do i lose my king tipper subheading? Please delay all other queries until this is clarified

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Don’t see why it would/should?
You wouldn’t get a say in the way a gym is run from your gym membership, or a monthly cinema membership etc. Those things can pull the plug at anytime and give their patrons no say in anything, and they’re making a profit.

I’m pretty sure it only defaults to Supporter if you don’t have a tagline already, looking at other posters. Also, you can turn the Supporter tagline off in your preferences.

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I’ve noticed the banner now says the amount against a total of Ā£600. Yet the amounts when I set up my subscrition, it was a target of $600. When I set up my subscription I set it up in $. Is the target still $600 or is it now converting to Ā£? If it’s the latter, why haven’t the values converted?