- i don’t talk about this
- i’ll talk to close friends/family
- i’ll talk to acquaintances
- anyone can ask me about this tbh
- happy to say exactly what i earn
- happy to share a ballpark figure
- evasive answer - “well in line with the industry expectations for someone with 5 years experience” etc etc
- think it’s rude/too personal to talk about
- dont feel that way
I mean, it depends who I’m talking to and what the conversation is about, obviously.
I dont actually know, I think its about 23-24
No inclination to hide it tbh
It’s total bullshit that we’re made to feel it’s rude to talk about salaries and only serves to help companies underpay their staff.
That was last season.
“And how’s your brother getting on finding a new flat?”
“DO YOU WANT TO KNOW HOW MUCH I MAKE HAHA”
Indirectly told someone in the same role as me how much I earned (it turned out to be more than him) and he kicked up a massive fuss about it for months.
with co-workers or other people in the same industry - there should be more chat about it. or if you’re talking about cost of living, or a conversation in which it might be helpful to share.
anyone else - none of your bizniz mush.
Canonically the Minions were trapped in an ice cave between 1812 and 1968.
I basically really hate talking about work when not at work, and am not interested in what my friends or anyone else do for a living unless it happens to be super super cool like painting miniatures.
i think i’d be very open about this anyway, but definitely influenced by my actual job history
zero hours retail work - too variable to say exactly, at that age everyone was just doing enough to get by, was pretty obvious the people who worked a lot earned more and worked less earned less
civil service job - know to the pound how much everyone here earns if i know their grade and how long they’ve been here for
so the second point especially makes me very comfy telling others as it just feels like something that’s out in the open and transparent in my workplace. Know there are subtleties though about who or how you tell people, dont want to go bragging etc. But if someone wanted to know for any half decent reason i’ve happily told them
100% this. The only people who perpetuate the myth that it’s taboo are the people who would be asked uncomfortable questions if it was discussed openly. Questions like “why the fuck do you pay me £10k less than someone doing the same job but worse?”
Only gets interesting when someone doing the same job as you in the same company is getting paid less than you, which happened to me once.
Think the second scenario can cause issues though because everyone thinks they know what everyone else is on but it’s not always the case? i.e. if someone negotiates a higher salary when appointed.
had a friend who gave me the whole “in line with industry salary” spiel once, surprised as was first time id had that irl
but do think he was earning easily 3x what anyone else in the group did, so can get why he was awkward about it. But that answer made it sound even worse somehow - mate i can handle if its £60k, what you said makes it sound like you’re a secret millionaire!
Plus people who earn daft amounts and are embarrassed as they’re clearly not providing work that deserves that compensation.
Including myself here.
There are valid reasons for not wanting to talk about it (mainly that in some social circles earning above/below the mean can get you treated differently) but i do believe wage transparency can be better for the greater good e.g. by very quickly highlighting things like gender disparities where they exist.
“They” don’t want us to share what we get paid so we can’t share notes and insist on reasonable treatment.