The Bear (Disney+) - please use spoilers with episode/season number note

Finally picking up S2 again after a big break for no good reason

The Marcus episode is just lovely lovely TV. Did make me annoyed I still haven’t made it to Copenhagen yet though somehow

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Smashing Pumpkins karaoke :smiley:

Lovely lovely Tina

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Forgot to say I really enjoyed the last episode too

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Only read any critique and views after finishing myself and find the idea that Claire is especially underwritten a bit odd. There are a few characters who haven’t been given huge amounts of explicit depth, who (as a few people have said here) seem pretty certain to have been deliberately constructed that way to show how not toxic and not fucked up they are by the impulses that consume the lead characters.

This season has 2 or 3 of the best individual episodes of any show I’ve ever watched. Kinda hope it wraps up after the next season, though.

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Poor sweet Pete

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Not sure that I would say Claire is underwritten - but she isn’t an interesting character in herself and she seemed quite separate from the rest of the show. All the other scenes had conflict and things going wrong - but when it was Claire and Carmy, the pace slowed right down and nothing much happened. I think the Claire stuff would have been better if it happened off-screen and we saw less off Carmy this season (to further show how he isn’t focussing on the restaurant), but that’s a challenging thing to do.

Claire just felt very mechanical to me. A way to introduce a bit of conflict at the end. For added drama in the finale it has a purpose but it’s the least entertaining recurring part throughout the season. I’m much more interested in Carmy’s relationship with his colleagues and kept wanting to get back to them.

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One of my favourite conflicts was when Tina was fucking around with Sidney early on in S1, proper teeth-clenching stuff

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Sure, guess everyone means something slightly different when critiquing Claire as underwritten, or underdeveloped etc. Like, it’s a failing or error that is technical in nature. It’s not, imo. Think that’s different to what each of us enjoys or finds interesting or motivates us to watch. Personally feel I’d seen enough of Carm being consumed by trying to make a restaurant work and not sure I’d have persevered if there wasn’t something else going on this season, but respect that’s a matter of taste.

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