#21

Wish is good but let’s not go nuts

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#22

Started going downhill from here I reckon:

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#23

Wish and Bloodflowers are both decent, Cut Here is a monumental tune, not as good as they were before but still worth a bit of attention. I reckon this thread’s just about covered it, nice work.

#24

‘Burn’ and ‘Want’ surely two of their finest though, eh?

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#25

The slide starts with Disintegration? Ok, mate.

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#26

i really like both, soft lad. Wish has a flawless opening trio. Wild Mood Swings gets a hell of a lot of flak but i think it’s pretty cool and it was the last time Robert Smith was trying new things. It’s to The Cure what Pop was to U2. after this they doubled down on goth (Bloodflowers) or just made third-rate copies of Wish.

#27

i read Open as a description of social anxiety, which can be pretty horrendous. that’s just my perspective though. some of the lines really nailed it, even if it was accidental

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#28

Wish is still “classic era” Cure (unless you’re one of those people who think they went downhill after Pornography). Worth a listen if you like Disintegration. Fits in with nicely with their 80s work. Maybe slightly more electronic?

Wild Mood Swings has some great stuff on it. I really like Strange Attraction, Mint Car, Return and the final track Bare (such a good ending). The rest is pretty disposable tbh, but no way does it deserve such negative reviews.

Everything up to the 2004 S/T album is worth having if you’re a proper fan. Not sure about the last one, haven’t really heard it.

#29

i really like Trap, Jupiter Crash, and The 13th. The 13th in particular is mystifyingly underrated.

#30

Really don’t get the hate / apathy for 4:13 Dream… it’s a fine album, lovely in places and holds my attention for the duration. Tho my favourite Echo & the Bunnymen album is The Fountain, so that may say a lot

#31

One of those bands that has an entirely separate page for their line up!

The timeline is fabulous.

But as a band I don’t know them at all. One of those acts that I have enjoyed singles by but never really made the effort to get stuck in.

Pertinent to the thread, I seem recall Mint Car coming out when I was at Uni and still very conservative in my music taste and thinking it one of the messiest and least likeable weird things I’d ever heard.

Edit: Listening to Mint Car now it sounds pretty straight. Maybe it was another single off the album that struck me as very odd?

2nd Edit: oh yeah it’s The 13th…and while I am more receptive to it now it’s still pretty weird and messy as a first single from an album.

#32

I think you could make a slightly better version of ‘Wild Mood Swings’ by getting rid of a few of the weaker songs and adding a couple of b-sides. Here is my alternative tracklist:

  1. Want
  2. A Pink Dream
  3. This is a Lie (Ambient Mix)
  4. The 13th
  5. Strange Attraction
  6. Mint Car
  7. Jupiter Crash
  8. It Used to be Me
  9. Ocean
  10. Numb
  11. Trap
  12. Treasure
  13. Bare
#33

The 13th was a very strange choice as first single from the album.

#34

Urge

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#35

it was fine. It’s not even that weird, it’s just a bit jazzy

#36

I actually like The 13th, but after being away for 3 years, i don’t think it was the right choice as the first single. ‘Gone’ was a bit of an odd choice too. ‘Mint Car’ should have been the first single and ‘Strange Attraction’ should have been the next one.

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#37

i think Mint Car is fairly weak, it’s a blatant retread of the sunny bouncy Cure single a la High-Friday-InbetweenDays etc. except nowhere as good. it was becoming pure parody at that point. this was probably reinforced by the fact i heard it for the first time on the 2001 Greatest Hits comp.

#38

I agree with you about ‘Mint Car’, it is a bit of a parody of the upbeat & bouncy Cure song. For a commercial point of view though, i’m surprised the record company didn’t insist it was the first single.

#39

Wish electronic? In what way?

#40

Dunno, I just recall bits of it being sounding more ‘electronic’ at least compared to their 80s stuff, a bit like Achtung Baby. Wild Mood Swings sounds even more like this.