#303

I know it’s a classic panic response, but my feeling is that this, really, is the beginning of a long slide into darkness, and I don’t want to be here when it happens. If I could move somewhere else in Europe I would. I am actively trying to find somewhere that would be insulated enough from the bad effects of all this - stay and change it doesn’t feel viable.

#304

Same. I’ve been a bit annoyed for months but not able to muster the same level of fury as my friends (even though I was prob the staunchest remainer of anyone I know irl). But today I feel really desolate and angry.

Can’t stop thinking about my friend who treated the ref like an interesting abstract thought experiment, didn’t vote, and then was all like “lol doesn’t affect me, I’m half Polish so retain EU citizenship regardless.” Had the cheek to send me a patronising “sorry to see Leave won, you must be gutted” message the morning after too.

#305

I voted remain but tbh I genuinely didn’t think we were going to end up at the point where we were considering quitting literally anything with European in the description. I thought the government would just sack off the EU join the EFTA and that would be that.

#306

I’m still annoyed with the brexiters who went STRAIGHT to hyper-defensive mode “THEY’RE ALL CALLING US RACISTS BUT WE’RE NOT EVEN”.

nobody was calling them racist. maybe their shitty newspapers told them that the liberal elite were calling them racists. or something.

#307

Loads of people called Brexiters racist tbf

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#308

Yeah. I am a born worrier, and really neurotic. Even so, I think there is a real possibility it will get very bad.

I had a strange vision of this country on the day after the referendum. 5 years from now, a lot of shops shut/boarded up. Pubs largely consisting of those square buildings that don’t really look like pubs. Each with a George cross flag on the front and populated solely by angry looking people, all wearing England football shirts.

I know it’s massively melodramatic. But we’ve taken a massive step back.

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#309

Pretty sure I’ve said that they are racist a few times

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#310

Did they though? All I saw was hand-wringing attempts to understand their legitimate concerns.

#311

Fair dos. And fair play for doing something about it.

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#312

Well I’ve definitely thought it. The stupid racists.

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#313

Haha. Yeah, I have similar visions sometimes. All of Britain basically looking like Southend High Street. But then it’s always looked like that, so…

I feel I need to indoctrinate myself somehow. I was on the Isle of Wight at the weekend and spoke to a guy who was buzzing about it. I want to be like HIM.

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#315

I’ve always been most worried about the European political outlook to be honest. Since the financial crisis we’ve been on a downward spiral towards political unrest. Say what you will about the EU, it was established mainly to stop fighting between the countries and has by and large been a great success on those terms.

Now, you can see the political divides growing between north and south and east and west. You can see the rise of popularism, nationalism and fascism. We’ve only began to see the 21st Century refugee crisis. And Brexit could well be the beginning of the end of the EU, our best hope of moving forward in a peaceful and coordinated manner.

While I get on with day to day life, I’m genuinely terrified that we’ve kicked off something that is going to threaten our ability to go about our day to day lives peacefully. So all other concerns (shit for my job, falling gdp, whatever…) are peripheral to me.

#317

you are.

#319

I think it’s the opposite, I think Brexit has made the rest of the EU ‘no way we’re letting this shit happen here’. They all think the UK is nuts. And if (big if of course) Macron wins in France, then racist candidates won’t have done very well at gaining power in mainland Europe this year.

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#320

You are right. I am talking about from my selfish point of view, but I agree on all those aspects.

Did you read that article by a historian that was even before Brexit I think? He pointed out all the things that could happen and essentially drag us into WW3. It was believable and fucking terrifying. I don’t want to link to it as I don’t even want to think about it again.

I’ll be over here with my head in the sand.

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#321

‘Basically a dollar and a quarter store’

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#322

Ah I don’t think you were being selfish and didn’t mean to imply that. I understood that you reckon British society is going to regress rather than “oh ffs my holidays are more expensive/i might get paid less” etc. I’m also pretty terrified about that. Particularly the wave of xenophobia - which was already bubbling under but was undoubtedly unleashed by Brexit. Could get very nasty on the ol’ fascist isle

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#323

Yeah, I’m from Scunthorpe, and I just described the nicest parts of it. That’s basically whole of the UK from now on. :wink:

#324

A colleague posted this on FB. It begins!

‘A Dublin taxi driver just told me he took a fare this morning from a man who’d missed a job interview because all Belfast to Dublin buses are being stopped for up to an hour for passport checks’