#693

This article by Jeff Weiss (which is a great read) mentions them opening for Biggie. Sometime before the '95 Source awards where they were heckled.

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#694

this is more varied than I remember, like lb said maybe it’s hearing the razzle dazzle of later albums first. that slowed down new jack swing of call of the wild, sleepy brown’s spot on Curtis mayfieldism on player’s ball and shimmery 70’s Curtis sounds, funky ride’s like a ‘i’d rather be with you’/ ‘I thought it was you’ hybrid.

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#695

yes! think that might be where I read it initially

#696

there must have been some insane tours from around that time, such a shame that it’s all pre-internet. I remember reading about when Public Enemy were supported by Tribe Called Quest, Leaders of the New School, Geto Boys and Queen Latifah.

There used to be a video on youtube of a 1992 yo! mtv raps summer concert and the line-up for that was pretty ridiculous too, can’t find it for the life of me

#697

Enjoying The Conscious Daughters album a lot. They completely passed me by at the time. Love both of their flows. I really like that quite aggressive style that a few female rappers had at the time. TCD In Da Front the one I keep rewinding - maybe because it’s so short. Dope track though.

Also nice to give Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik another listen as it’s been a few years. Would always give this as my favourite Outkast album, but I think it’s been overtaken by ATLiens. Starts to lose steam at the end - after Claimin’ True I find I’m skipping skits and Funky Ride and it sort of ruins the flow of the album.

I think Players Ball was the first CD single I ever bought.

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#698

So, I was dead set on picking Four Horsemen by Ultramagnetic MCs for my next pick, what with the new Dr Octagon album dropping soon and some Kool Keith chat in this thread.

But I gave it another listen and… I just don’t think it holds up all that well. Ced Gee is a chore to listen to, some of production sounds a touch dated and it just didn’t really hold my interest all the way through. But having said that, one thing that has kept this album in some form of rotation for me over the years is Godfather Don. He’s credited with the production on four tracks on Four Horsemen, and also raps on the best cut - Raise It Up.

His style gels really well with Kool Keith, and they obviously hit it off as this album was the first of a few collaborations between the pair. During the Four Horsemen recording sessions, Keith came up with the Rhythm X alter-ego and they created a handful of tracks for Keith solo album that never happened but did form the basis of my choice…

GODFATHER DON & KOOL KEITH - The Cenobites LP

cenobites

Originally put out as an EP as Fondle Em’s first ever release, this version is the expanded CD that came out a few years later. It’s not on Spotify so you can download it here…

Whole thing has a very lo-fi aesthetic. Feels very much like an episode of Stretch and Bobbito - madcap humour, low quality mastering, bugged out rapping, Bobbito goofing around on the microphone, Percee P guest spot and it contains one of my favourite (maybe the favourite) Kool Keith tracks ever - Mommy. Apparently the whole thing was done in a week in Kool Keith’s basement “eating grilled cheeses and smashing bugs”. Lots of anti-major label ranting and general weirdness - I do wonder about the influence of those early Keith and Don sessions and the trajectory he took after that. Would Dr Octagon have happened etc.

Anyway, have a listen. Or if you already know it, drop some thoughts on it or general Kool Keith chat.

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#699

Awesome, never heard!

#700

36m 34s. Kool Keith on Art of Rap talking about beef. “I’m like the Russian government. I have a record ready… prepared… for everybody”

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#702

Love me a ten track album. Feels right. Love how lo fi this sounds, not sure why they did like this but whatever, it works, adds to the weirdness.

Keith’s verse on Kick A Dope Verse is perfection:

maybe one night, look through your peephole PEEKABOO

lol@ bobbitos verse on that tho. So basic in comparison.

#703

Something weird w Percee P whenever I hear him rap I’m like DAMN this dude is crazy good w that rapid fire alliteration style but then I try a whole song by him I get bored. He’s such a good feature artist to bring in for 16-32 bars on a track for a change of pace/sound but he just never ventured beyond that.

#704

Kick a Dope Verse remix is awesome, would fit perfectly on doc octo album.

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#705

Been bumping the Conscious Daughters, enjoy the record a lot. Thought Paris might shift em some low grade beats but the production surprised me, pretty top notch throughout. Probably aged better than some other low key west coast gangsta rap releases cos the ladies bring a little bit of a fresh angle to the obvs typically narrow subject matter of the genre. They’re pretty tight too. Be one I’m throwing on when I get a west coast itch for a minute

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#706

I was surprised how well this alb aged. Been listening to it a lot lately. That eerie theremin sound hovering around on TCD In Da Front + when those piano stabs come in >>

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#707

yes chairman, hadn’t heard. ‘rhymes I sniff…’ is the one here for me, that reverb ain’t quittin. mcing is suitably wild

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#708

Yeah, agreed. I read about him being notorious for hanging around outside Fat Beats selling his CDr and was quite disappointed not to see him when I first visited New York. Ended up getting a copy off Sandbox and I can’t remember the last time I played it.

#709

Love the intro to that.

“Oh… Tennessee? I got something for ya’, kid”

#710

these skits and spoken word bits are hilarious

#711

love this very much.

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#712

Glad a few people are feeling it!

For those that haven’t checked it,
I want to talk it out, I want to reason with you
I want to get the deal, I want to show girls that I love them
I want to hold them tight
Mommy? Where are you mommy? MOMMY?!? Mommy?