State of that pair.
MSP + MP endorsements roundup.
For Humza Yousaf - 54
John Swinney MSP
Shona Robison MSP
Angus Robertson MSP
Shirley-Anne Sommerville MSP
Michael Matheson MSP
Elena Whitham MSP
Kevin Stewart MSP
MĆ iri McAllan MSP
Ben Macpherson MSP
Christina McKelvie MSP
Neil Gray MSP
Jenny Gilruth MSP
Jamie Hepburn MSP
Mairi Gougeon MSP
Maree Todd MSP
Tom Arthur MSP
Alasdair Allan MSP
Karen Adam MSP
Graeme Dey MSP
Clare Adamson MSP
Bob Doris MSP
Natalie Don MSP
James Dornan MSP
Jackie Dunbar MSP
Joe FitzPatrick MSP
Emma Harper MSP
Paul McLennan MSP
Marie McNair MSP
Jenni Minto MSP
Audrey Nicoll MSP
Emma Roddick MSP
Collette Stevenson MSP
Kaukab Stewar MSP
Evelyn Tweed MSP
Stephen Flynn MP
Mhairi Black MP
Ian Blackford MP
Hannah Bardell MP
Kirsty Blackman MP
Deidre Brock MP
Amy Callaghan MP
Angela Crawley MP
Martin Docherty-Hughes MP
Stewart Hosie MP
Chris Law MP
Stuart McDonald MP
Anne McLaughlin MP
Anum Qaisar MP
Tommy Sheppard MP
Chris Stephens MP
Alison Thewliss MP
Owen Thompson MP
Richard Thomson MP
Pete Wishart MP
For Kate Forbes - 14
Ivan McKee MSP
Siobhian Brown MSP
Colin Beattie MSP
Annabelle Ewing MSP
Fergus Ewing MSP
Christine Grahame MSP
Jim Fairlie MSP
Ruth Maguire MSP
Fulton MacGregor MSP
Michelle Thomson MSP
David Torrance MSP
Carol Monaghan MP
Douglas Chapman MP
Angus MacNeil MP
Ash Regan - 1
Joanna Cherry MP
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i voted and youāll never guess who for
Yeah. And I didnāt put a second preference. Cos no thanks.
same. wasnāt sure if that was the right thing to do, but i couldnāt vote for anyone else.
real cross roads for the membership, isnāt it. Kinda feel Nicās made a bad decision here, leaving the party in a bit of a fizzle. still love her though
āVote till you bokeā, as they say. Donāt wanna offer any personal legitimacy to either.
Looking back, I have to remind myself that despite being somewhat known, Sturgeon was still relatively new on the scene when she became leader (relative to now), and grew into it immensely as time passed.
I reckon thereās the potential for Yousaf to do similarly. Not in the same was as Surgeon, and perhaps not to the same degree, but I donāt fall for the social media slagging he gets about being be a fuckup. Show me any politician whoās been in the kind of roles heās been in and hasnāt picked up detractors or made errors along the way. Which is not to overlook some of the genuine faults that do exist with him. I guess the summary is that heās saying pretty much the right things and has the potential to continue on that course.
The other two are non-starters for me. Just pointed totally in the wrong direction. Not interested. Seen to much of them already.
But yeah, there probably couldāve been a little more succession planning from Sturgeon.
Kinda surprised sheās not lost her rag and just outright declared for Yousaf. Swinney has. On the other hand, itās surely abundantly obvious to anyone whoās wondering, and who might be influenced by her preference, as to who sheās aligned with. And not declaring puts a stop to a load of outsider/conspiracy stuff that Forbes or Regan might try to leverage were Sturgeon to formally state a preference.
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what do you think she could/should have done differently? because I do feel the same, but also if sheās heading out at such short notice because itās just become too much and sheās just tired ā¦ not sure what else we can expect of someone in that position to carry on for months more etc to give the party time
and if she mentioned it internally well in advance to offer prep time, you know it would have got out to the press quick sharp
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i know yeah, youāre right. i just think that within the leadership and the cabinet there couldāve been more forward planning, secretly, like āforbes canāt run but could be depute under humzaā kinda thing.
i happily agree with her choice to step down. respect it deeply, actually.
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Agree with you though, it still feels like soemthing wasnāt done right
Maybe itās not how she left then, just a sign of some big holes in the party that have built over time and are just coming into view now, which before were papered over by how good she is
bingo.
this is the problem with a catch all ideological party set up, as in āvote for us for indyā which will bring in everyone under a single issue. itās why thereās so many outspoken terfs in the SNP, in that they think itās their party and assume that those in the party will agree with them on other issues. that works in both directions btw, just that the fash that are in the party are scumā¦
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another aspect though is that for all itās an ideological party and surely everyone in it wants independence ā¦ theyāre also the ruling party, with power and influence. Thatās going to attract a different sort of indy-politician than would have wanted to join the SNP in its infancy, maybe one where the centre (left?) hegemony is higher up their personal priority list than indy is
not saying its a good or bad thing either, just that they now (or have for ages) have a weird combo of single issue focus alongside wider power/responsibility. I guess not far from things happening with the Greens too (UK-wide), in their journey from a one-note outsider party to one who is regularly in the mix and a genuine option for many voters
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Finally watched one of the debates.
Humza was actually alright and definitely is more pegged to the progressive values that, i thought/hoped, the party stood for.
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This pish just seems designed to encourage conspiracy theories on how the process was āriggedā when Humza hopefully wins.
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Notably signed by just Regan ha
The National are reporting it āhas the backing of Kate Forbes campaign teamā too.
All beautifully set up for some trump style denoucement of a legitimate result.
Quite the gambit:
āThe party i am a member of and want to be leader of canāt be trusted as they are corrupt. Can i be leader now, please?ā
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Can someone explain wth is currently going on in the SNP
Yes.
The broad church of independence has meant that a load of fash are in the party and have been quietened and partly tolerated the SNPās programme of progressive moves by the ideological need to get Indy. With Nic going they now see this as a chance to āregainā control of Indy, but also being able to Change the governance and politics of the party, and shift it more to the right.
It also appears to have exposed the drop in members that, I think, the party were hiding. Like most parties do I think.
Anyway.
It is a bad look and almost certainly has caused a huge backwards step in both the electoral power of the SNP and the cause for independence.
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