The Scottish Politics and Independence Thread 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

I reckon if Scotland can’t claim a universal declaration of independence then Orkney probably can’t either

Well that isn’t good.

EDIT: I guess good if she goes into national Scottish politics?


she’s a brilliant politician, wasted in the Westminster bubble. i reckon she could get elected in scotland and then run for FM after Humza.


Yeah that would be the silver lining of course.

Absolutely devastated. She’s incredible but has had to deal with more abuse than all bar a handful of people in UK politics.

She mentions ‘elected politics’ in general in her statement so I’m not sure she’s planning a switch at the moment anyhow. But I hope she does decide to return to politics in Scotland at some point - it will be a better place for it.


It is a tragedy that Black will step down at the next election. There is a decent interview with her for the Proper Class podcast. Incidentally, it happened around the time of Truss’s resignation, which provided a delicious backdrop.

It is a shame that someone so indomitable finds the National Parliament “one of the most unhealthy workplaces you could ever be in”.

Kate Forbes shitstirring.

Saying the SNP/Green Bute House agreement should be reviewed/questioned/ended.

With Joanna Cherry queuing up to gripe.

Fergus Ewing, too (anti same sex marriage, anti fox hunt ban, pro oil, (also the only SNP MSP to align with the Tory motion in a recent failed no confidence vote in Lorna Slater, ostensibly about the deposit return scheme, and he was later praised for his “courage” by a group of booze companies).

Also disgruntled: Robin Harper (Scottish Green co-convener '04-'08, now ex- of the party).

Add in: Shahrar Ali, failed Green Party of England and Wales leader candidate.

All getting plenty of coverage by Holyrood Mag.

There’s a common thread here, and it ain’t simply a technocratic or democratic concern about the Bute House agreement.

What’s the mandate for this, given that there was no discussion with this as the outcome at conference? And the reasoning?

She’s just a bell end trying to cause trouble and get her name back in the spotlight after everyone forgot she existed.

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Being a shitstirring wrecker TERF seems to be the size of it.

As Yousaf has pointed out, he’s only just been elected leader and was abundantly clear about good position on it.

The story made the BBC telly the other night. Ok. I can see how it’d squeak into relevance on a slow news day. But their framing of it felt a bit suss, with a top-of-story comment from the newsreader (one I’d not seen before) saying something like “Yousaf, who was narrowly elected leader…”. Felt like there was some unwarranted editorialising going on there.

And then, right on cue, Streeting pops up, too, outright repeating that bullshit about self ID being ‘rushed through’.

It’s a right motley crew of shithouses.

A Venn diagram with these people as one part and ARSEHOLES as the other would simply be a circle


Right on brand





Didn’t really expect to see action taken on this, to be honest.


A good overview of progress on active travel commitments.

Seemingly a good reversal of the trend for centralisation here.

Might be a boost for transport projects like the Clyde Metro, too, if there’s a more collective region-based network approach, rather than a primarily localised city-centric focus.

‘The Scottish Government today announced a transfer of authority over the Clyde Mission regeneration programme, previously a Scottish Govt run project, to Glasgow City Region.’

‘The transfer itself is mildly significant but niche news, but the more interesting development is buried further down the announcement:’

“The migration, from the Scottish Government administering the project, takes place as talks with local leaders are to begin on formally recognising the eight local authorities as a ’metro-region’ – to help drive growth, create more jobs and deliver benefits to communities.

Migration of Clyde Mission to Glasgow City Region

‘A problem often discussed on this sub and elsewhere is the relative lack of power GCC has, a lot of which stems from the fact much of the real metro-area of the city (and its council tax receipts) are outside the city boundary. This seems to hint at a new regional body and devolution of powers being created for Glasgow, which would only be good news.’

And the first comment:

‘Strathclyde Regional Council 2: Municipal Boogaloo’


Via r/glasgow.


Fingers crossed this proves to be the step in the right direction that it ought to be.


Almost eight years after the first hearing, the Edinburgh trams inquiry has been published!!!

A long-delayed inquiry into the Edinburgh trams scandal has found “a litany of avoidable failures” blamed on the city council, the company set up to deliver the troubled project and Scottish ministers.


I’m sure there are some useful recommendations in there, but also blaming it on the principle actors involved is a bit… “well, yes?”

Anyway good response from the Leader anyway

Leader of Edinburgh City Council, Cammy Day, said “it’s clear that serious mistakes were made” which had a “significant impact on the city”.

He added: "There’s no getting away from the fact that the original project caused a great deal of disruption to residents and businesses, as well as damaging the city’s reputation and on behalf of the council, I want to apologise for this.

I won’t, however, apologise for building a tram system, or for our ambition to develop it further.

“After all, creating a better connected, environmentally friendly transport system is essential for a modern, successful city and we need to transform the way people move around if we are to achieve our net zero goals.”

Very very important to remember that people like having nice things like modern and efficient and pleasant public transport and rarely care about stuff like this once it is in place and functioning and materially improving their lives. See also: Crossrail.


Well there’s a blast from the past.

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This the exact pr quote I out out anytime I’m demolishing half a city to build more platforms in OpenTTD