The State of Football

So was I, but then you got relegated :frowning:

we’ll all have our fun

This season the DiS football threads…

  • Better than usual
  • About the same
  • Worse than usual
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  • Still better than most football discourse online
  • No better
  • Worse
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Actually @El_Merto feel free to delete this if it’s derailing your thread.

better than most, but it’s a very, very low bar

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Probably worth an extended discussion elsewhere, but valid points.

If there was any kind of sensible overarching policy when it came to even distribution of money around the leagues (thunderbirds laughing.gif) the top tier teams should be made to subsidise ticket prices for League One and Two games that kick off at 3pm on a Saturday. Would probably have gone to Rovers last season if it wasn’t Ā£30 a ticket (which they lowered to Ā£25 when they became nailed on for relegation) and Premier League teams can’t really argue that it’s competition given how half their games kick off at 6pm on a Tuesday or something nowadays.

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Probably better overall but also not great in a different way.

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Was going to say no better than usual but then I remembered Ange Poppedhisclogsu and listen, fair play

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Yeah - most out of all the mountains of toxic waste out there, or most out of the platforms that I choose to look at?

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Mainly only really watch Palace games, largely fell out of love with most other football years ago.

Nearly stopped going to Palace a couple of years ago when a friend stopped going due to illness and I was watching Roy Hodgson football on my own.

But now the friend renewed again at the start of the season and I also sit with hippy_smell nowadays.
It’s been a pretty great season.

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Haven’t been to a men’s professional game since January 2020. Increasing not bothered about watching PL games on TV. European knockouts have been fun this season but even then, I’ve often just got them on a second screen whilst watching something else.

Still go a couple of elite women’s games every season but can’t be arsed with most of the time slots they have. I’d love it if they have more Saturday evening and Sunday afternoon ones, there’s always a better crowd and atmosphere.

I’ve probably been to 30-40 non-league games each of the last four seasons. There’s a load of reasons why I find it more enjoyable, obviously friends and cost but I think the fact that it’s not all consuming really helps. There’s no good video footage so refereeing howlers are easy to forget, we have one opposition that there’s real animosity with but they’re easy enough to avoid by not using Twitter.

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I love football. LOVE IT.

But that’s probably because I consume almost zero PL product other than looking at the scores on a Saturday evening in a club house.

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i watch wolves every week, mainly coz the lad and i watch together. other than that, really not bothered about any other prem team and wouldnt be bothered if i never saw another game. fed up with the incredible softness of the players and the amount of diving and feigning injury etc

will go and watch cambridge about 10 times a season. enjoy the atmosphere, the 3pm kick offs, pre and post game pints, ryan loft elbowing defenders when challenging for a high ball and the defenders not being bothered about it. goal kicks that get kicked into the other teams half. etc

Think you must have misclicked @The_Respected_User

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You’re so obsessed with me

Yeah hated adored never ignored mate

As a supporter of a club that has gone through the mill in the past few years, I have felt an extra connection to the club and enjoyed the experience of watching them even more than previously. It has felt like the team and the fans have been closer than at any other time in the past and that has been great. Travelling away to League 1 grounds in 2023/24 was some of the best fun I have had as a fan and I’m really looking forward to next season after our survival on the last day.

We may yet start challenging again for promotion to the Prem… but it seems to be more of a poisoned chalice than a holy grail and if we were actually promoted I’m not sure I would love the experience anywhere near as much

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more or less just watch Depor these days. suppose its a combination of:

  • no longer living in the UK so just less around English football.
  • tickets being so much cheaper here.
  • nicer, less aggro atmosphere at games.
  • the actions of two owners and ownership groups making me basically lose interest in following Chelsea. first the feeling that we were buying success, and now I don’t even really know who’s playing at the club. I can’t afford to go and watch them when I’m back, and I think I’ve probably watched only 3 or 4 games on tv the past season.

they’re the main ones, but sort of like death via a thousand cuts tbh. the unaffordability, the sort of people involved at the top level of the game etc etc. english football has also become a lot worse for the spectators recently too.

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I’ve quite regularly spoken about how my engagement has changed over the years but the bullet points:

  • have long accepted football is fucked, may or not have coincided with when Norwich largely fucked their last real chance at establishing themselves in the Premier League (so like a decade ago, but fully happened coming out of COVID) but also when Russia hosted the World Cup in 2018 and was announced Qatar would be following in 2022.
  • around the same time I started watching Dulwich Hamlet (2013/14) and started becoming more closely tied to local Non-League Football (Peckham Town on some weekends) but as is often joked about also cast my net quite wide, watching Partick Thistle regularly in Scotland and Union Berlin in Germany during my spells there, as well as keeping up with various interesting clubs and narratives from various leagues and countries.
  • Premier League and European Football is largely just entertainment for me, reduced to big matches (usually Sunday teatime game) and cup finals, I’m absolutely fine with this level of engagement.

So in summary, yes, big football is fucked to the point that I’m basically entirely clocked out of my boyhood club because they’re stuck in a never ending existential crisis of 10 or so clubs who are too big for the Championship, too small for the Premier League. But I reassigned my focus of where smaller and/or more diverse football still has lots of really exciting stuff going on, as well spending the majority of my time watching more local football (depending on where I am at the time) so I still enjoy it just as much, just in pretty different ways which has been morphing for about a decade now.

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Cheers mate