I mean given the amount of attention that Corbyn laying that wreathe got I expect this to be covered extensively by the media.

Also Astor isn’t even subtle about it.

:grimacing:

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fucking hell, how is this allowed to pass with little comment?!

would be funny if they unveiled it and it turned out they’d actually sculpted Constance Markievicz holding a revolver

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I used to live next door to Nancy Astor. I mean, she was dead and everything by then, but I had a flat in the building next to the building she used to live in.

Fairly tenuous claim to fame, this.

She’s dead?!

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Dead excited about being commemorated in Plymouth!

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sorry to break it you like that, dude. Very heartless of me.

In relation to communists and Jews she ‘Looked upon Adolf Hitler as a welcome solution to both of these "world problems’’’.

Fucking hell :joy:

Although she held anti-Semitic views,[45] Astor has not been documented as influential in anti-Semitic or pro-Nazi policies

Oh that’s fine then

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Although I take issue with the way Corbyn has (mis)managed the handling of anti-semitic allegations within the Labour Party, there’s definitely a double standard at play. If he had carried out what May carried out today he would be getting completely destroyed.

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I’m very sorry for the pain and anxiety Jewish people are going through, the fact that the tories might be in government for another 5 years with almost no scrutiny from the media is terrifying for all anti-racist people

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Further context: Astor already has 16 commemorative sites in Plymouth. She isn’t underrepresented. There’s an entire park named after her with plaques and stuff just near my house.

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Such a fucked up country

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Also, her dad fought in the Confederate Army and used his Confederate Army connections to land the Railroad contract that made him his fortune

& then her father in law gave her & her husband this for their wedding present

Trailblazer

I used to go passed Astor Feild(sic - think they only corrected the sign recently after letting the error go for 90 years) on the way to school.

that gaff is stupendously big, isn’t it

lemme guess, you went to Prince Rock?

That whole Wikipedia page is really weird, isn’t it? Seems to be written by someone trying to minimise her bad side and make out she was better than she was. I particularly liked this failure point:

Her audiences appreciated her wit and ability to turn the tables on hecklers. Once a man asked her what the Astors had done for him and she responded with, “Why, Charlie, you know,”

I mean maybe you have to read it in Shakespeare’s tongue?

And yeah in that block about Nazism:

She told one Nazi official, who later turned out to be working against Nazis from within, that she supported their re-armament because Germany was “surrounded by Catholics”. She also told Joachim von Ribbentrop, the German Ambassador who later became the Foreign Minister of Germany, that Hitler looked too much like Charlie Chaplin to be taken seriously. These statements are the only documented incidents of her direct expressions to Nazis.

What?

it’s quite something how Nancy Astor threw off the shackles of repression to stand for all women everywhere

Huh, I was born in the hospital on the grounds there, didn’t really know the history.