Ha, jeez, I always thought they got it from some schlocky, straight-to-video 80s slasher film!

Though there’s Bullet for My Valentine who are far more suited to that.

Up until very recently I didn’t realise:

  • East and West Germany weren’t split more or less exactly in half and there was/is an actual German-Czech[oslovakian] border.
  • Berlin was actually an enclave city with specific partitions before 1990 rather than the Berlin Wall being part of a contiguous East/West German border and one huge, long, single Iron Curtain
  • Not all of Ulster is in Northern Ireland (feel free to report me to the Brits are at it again thread. It’s odd as I have two quite close friends in Dresden and Letterkenny, who are also brother and sister…)
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Um,

  • What countries did you imagine were on the border? Just interested I suppose. But I’m guessing this means you either didn’t do fascism & WW2 at school during history or you didn’t pay attention because the Sudetenland stuff is all about that.
  • West Berlin was an enclave city. It’s in what was East Germany so the wall completely enclosed West Berlin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin_Wall#/media/File:Berlin-wall-map_en.svg

Oh wait, I see you edited your Berlin point because you got yourself turned around,. no matter :slight_smile:

Switzerland and Austria - thought Prague, for example, was much further east.

I didn’t after Year 9. Did quite well at history but think I narrowly snubbed it at AS-level for French, long story. For GCSE (1999-2001) IIRC it was entirely UK-based and about the Industrial Revolution, trade unions, creation of the Welfare State etc.

Very grateful for your reply as the other day I thought for hours about how the latter was a huge positive in firing my young mind to believe passionately in the NHS, workers’ rights, democratic socialism, the absence of a lot of very important global knowledge of the 1930s and 1940s made me very complacent in my teens and twenties about recent European issues, maybe as far as Little Englander, Mark Francois-esque delusions that Britain were always the good guys and fascism couldn’t happen here. Though I remember talking to my mum the day before the Brexit vote and saying with some conviction something like “It won’t really matter if we remain or leave, we’ll still get on fine with the rest of Europe, my friend (mentioned upthread) who lives in Dresden has loads of friends there, and of course in 1945 we did something terrible to that city but a lot’s changed and moved on since then” :grimacing: :grimacing: :grimacing:

I mean I would say, never mind, you live and learn, but a big thank you for mentioning this as I’ve needed this wake-up call. Though it only took me 48 hours to regret voting Leave, however much a left-wing ideology behind it I imagined, and I’ve regularly explained then apologised for/disowned that stance here and elsewhere ever since, I don’t think I’ve engaged and empathised genuinely enough with people who very understandably, including many on this forum and many people I know personally, have been upset and worried about Brexit ever since. In short, yeah, I think formative experiences, plus a few privileges, gave me a false sense of security that everything’s going to be alright. When, though I shouldn’t stop getting on with everyday life, I must trust more in whatever those quotes were about the wall between democracy and dictatorship/good and evil being paper-thin, and/or democracy being a thousand times easier to break than make. So many thanks for that as it’s sparked a lot of ambition in me to have much more articulate and understanding political dialogue :slight_smile: I’m blurring this as I don’t want to risk “quirky” trivialising but I’ve got into arguments about Brexit with everyone from a friend who works in a Manchester craft shop to the lead singer of Menswe@r… sigh.

Also, lots of friends my age not at Bentham Grammar School (closed 2002 (!)) had a much better handle on understanding the US etc. through doing Modern World History - about the counter-culture, civil rights, Vietnam War etc. I learned more from 60s music biographies than I ever did at school. People taking one History GCSE syllabus in 2000 may remember there was an incredibly difficult question on Vietnam which I think was the last question of what was for many kids the last paper of those exams - a friend got 10 A*s and would have a clean sweep of 11 if it wasn’t for that final Becher’s Brook!

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I didn’t know Berlin wasn’t split down the middle until I literally moved here. :grimacing:

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Road to Joy by Bright Eyes is a play on Ode to Joy and the verse melody borrows the melody of that peice of music

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Always wondered why lots of bread doesn’t fit into most toasters. For years i’ve flipped them halfway through, or just let them toast and nibble off the untoasted bit at the top.

The other day a mate came round and in passing asked if they could make a bit of toast, and when they loaded it they put the slices sideways. It’s absolutely blown my fucking mind.

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This is a good one :slightly_smiling_face:

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Still doesn’t all fit in sideways, mind you.

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That the Go Compare man’s name is a play on Go Compare

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I can’t believe Gio Compario has been a thing for over a decade

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That’s how slow I am? Over 10 years?

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I don’t know how long his name has been in the public record

Maybe there was a member of the GoCompare marketing team who was adamant on the integrity of their original character - an alcoholic opera singer lost in a deeply metaphorical world that he can no longer control, goes by the name of Johnny J. Comparison. Who was outraged when some plucky upstart said “lol Gio Compario” and started putting him in zany situations (“Gah!” the original adman would yell, “Johnny J. Comparison would NEVER stoop so low as to do a Frozen parody. Johnny J. Comparison lost access to popular culture, just like he lost access to a normal life when his children were kidnapped! Don’t you remember my original pitch?” to which his boss, he who had once been so supportive says. “Johnny J. Comparison don’t work here no more. And neither do you.”)

I mean, I seriously doubt any of that is the case but, you know what they say, stranger things have happened

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It was only recently that I realised “it’s always in the last place you look” is a joke

Can’t wait for this to turn into another “Not if I see you first” debacle

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Lassi is pronounced lussi

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Lussi Laaskelainen

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Hovered over liking this for an age but Finaly caved in

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