This Little Mix legal action thing

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#1

I was kind of getting this until the suggestion about the 2 support acts also. Compensation culture or reasonable claims?

#2

Whats the legal duty?

#3

Obviously reasonable.

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#4

Why shouldnā€™t the support acts be signed too?

#5

Why donā€™t you start a label and do it yourself

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#6

ā€œreasonable adjustmentsā€

Sounds like this was all a bit last minute, so probably too late to get it sorted for the support acts as well. The promoter really should have agreed much earlier though given the size of the show.

#7

Iā€™m not really into music. not to that degree. Donā€™t really even go to see live bands.

#8

Ohhh I sorry I think you were telling a joke that I didnā€™t get about the word ā€˜signedā€™. I ruin everything I touch.

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#9

Obviously if there is laws in place to provide it then they shouldā€™ve done it immediately and without quibble. Bit silly really considering the money that the concert wouldā€™ve have taken.

Pretty amused however at the thought of a signer have to sign little mix raunchy lyrics to some little kids :slightly_smiling_face:

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#12

what would happen if it was some little indie wanker band playing to 20 people, what happens then? Could you follow legal proceedings then as well? Dunno.

#13

totally reasonable claim. More often than not concerts will not be fully accessible for a myriad of reasons. Of course, not all promoters will know what reasonable adjustments need to be implemented but in this case the parents contacted the promoter ahead of the concert to arrange for an interpreter. She shouldnā€™t have to threaten legal action to get this put in place.

I suspect the promoters were being tight and didnā€™t want to shell out for interpreters for the whole concert.

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#15

They hired one?

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deserves more likes

#18

I think the principle behind reasonable adjustments is that it has to be practical, so I think for a big little mix concert it would have been easy for them to arrange in advance, a little diy gig probably would be less practical, no idea where the threshold is though until someone challenges it

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#20

Weā€™ve never come across this issue as promoters, but then again, we do tend to put on terrible noise bands with no lyrics.

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#21

Iā€™ve seen small gigs set up a TV with lyrics on them. Guyhousername does it at his shows, and it doesnā€™t seem too hard to set up.

The advice from Attitude is Everything is pretty good on this kind of thing:

http://www.attitudeiseverything.org.uk/resources

EDIT: better link

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#23

Iā€™d imagine that the word ā€œreasonableā€ would mean that small gigs wouldnā€™t be affected by it. As it would be unreasonable for us to spend money on an interpreter if it means the bands not being paid.

As for helping people with physical disabilities access the venue, Iā€™m sure thatā€™s just being decent, kind people and wanting to help a fellow music lover.

#24

Like with building conversions and access in my line of work, there is the term ā€˜reasonableā€™ in there, which means that there is some leeway if a building is (for example) listed, or if installing a lift would make it unviable. If you donā€™t make your building/experience accessible then youā€™re losing business in the long term, after all.

Thereā€™s not really any excuse for not providing this kind of thing in new buildings or public sector buildings though.

#25

This happened at gigs I put on at junktion7 and town mill. Including a member of the support at one.

#27

Thatā€™s right. Where were you working?