#202

69 Voters so I’m closing this for posterity.

#203

I think (and @bamnan) the issue is generally making sure people have a good standard of living. This is why we’ve got Brexit, because people’s lives are really rubbish. If you make sure you treat the poorer members of society with grace you will actually get a trickle up to the older parts of society IMO. Plenty of grandparents voted for Brexit because they believed they were doing the right thing for their grandchildren and I’d imagine we’re talking a lot of OAPs looking at their grandkids struggling in today’s society. The problem is they think this is the answer. You can’t hope to educate them really but if they were looking at those parts of society and saw people were already being taken care of and, indeed, if they were too, they would think it better not to rock the boat.

Treat people well and you will get a progressive society.

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#204

Okay, @plasticniki are you ready to help put @profk in power? I think we’ll need to start gladhanding tech-bros for backing.

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#205

I potentially read it wrong but I saw it as “be mindful of how you discuss it” rather than “don’t discuss it at all”.

I liked your description of personality disorders being possible defence mechanisms…I’ve heard a bit about schema theory over the last year or so (whilst being given an overview on dialectal behaviour therapy) and the focus was certainly on the “nurture” rather than “nature” side. What I gathered is that significant difficulty with emotional/cognitive regulation follows on from having traumatic learning experiences…so you adopt “maladaptive” coping strategies to deal with this. Of course…what is maladaptive to one may not be to another…and none of us have perfect methods of coping, either.

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#206

Always been a big fan of people coming into a thread, taking the piss out of the participants and then getting huffy when someone has a go at them back for it.

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#207

This is why I don’t think damning everyone who voted for brexit is going to benefit them or anyone else really.

#208

True but I also think people confuse being angry at people with dismissing them or damning them, TBH. Just because your mum is angry at you for doing a bad thing doesn’t mean she thinks you’re an awful person. The issue with the Leave camp is they’re so scared it won’t happen they’ve gone into this hyper-defensive state where they try to force Remainers to feel guilty for the mere act of disagreement.

#209

Yeah there’s lots of awful stuff going on but I hate it when people from a privileged position sneer at and blame it all on idiot poor folk. Also yes I do this myself and hate it when I calm down and catch myself doing it so happy to admit I’m a hypocrite.

#211

At the moment, you only have want the wrong kind of Brexit to be deemed a traitor to the realm

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#214

don’t think it can be collapsed down to one typical voter, the ones you describe are definitely a big strand but there are definitely more sympathetic strands too

#215
  • Asbestos removal
  • More asbestos! More asbestos!

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#216

my dad claims our house has the ‘good type of asbestos’ bit scared to look into whether that exists so will take his word for it

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#217

Madly enough, asbestos is still legal in the USA.

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#219

All I can think of when I see them being punted is:

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#220

Oh wow

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#221

I assumed that was the point. :smiley:

#222

These are pretty interesting too, wrt it being a disorder that has a physical presence in the brain. I gather they have a pretty good understanding of what behaviour they can reasonably expect to see from a psychopath but no real understanding of how it could be treated or why some end up murderers while other end up bankers or lawyers, etc.

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#223

the first suggest it’s not to do with lack of empathy for others, but the person not being able to properly evaluate the cost to themselves of impulsive actions, that’s really interesting, wonder if it has to also coincide with having violent impulses in the first place, or whether the suggestion is everyone has violent impulses they just are better at not acting on them. Guess it does counter my earlier point that about people still being able to make the right choices even if they can’t feel bad about the wrong ones. I’m an impulsive over eater, maybe I should be worried

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#224

@profk Do you want me to move all the psychopathy talk into a separate thread or are you happy for it to stay in here?