More like Briney And Oh So Shite. Amirightlads?

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*with apologies to the many people who have already made that joke, I’m not reading eighteen million posts to find out who.

Not even listening to any pumpkins

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That’s well said and I totally understand. There definitely is a subset of the base like that, and to some degree even I with all of my unbridled enthusiasm / insufferableness am part of it.

I think my frustration is more derived from those outside of that set. I don’t think he’s ever going to get widespread praise from the fans or real critical acclaim unless he meets a very specific, very contradictory, rather impossible set of criteria (think the Simpsons’ focus group scene). And I don’t think other bands need to come anywhere close to meeting the same standards to receive a lot of praise, let alone any at all. Albums guilty of the criticisms lobbed at his work routinely make album of the year lists (many of which I like).

I guess this situation existing is kind of an accidental roundabout validation of Billy as the defining and most talented artist of his generation, so I should be happy. Kind of like how a typical player in the NBA can throw up a 25-10-8 and it’s a great game, whereas Lebron James can throw up a 30-12-10 and be met with “he doesn’t have heart, he should have willed himself to score 40.”

The more i listen to the new record the less i like it.

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You’re still listening?!?

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Their were nuggets of hope in the album so I thought I’d try and let it grow on me. It hasn’t really worked out that way sadly.

Not as good as Oceania

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Always see billy as more of a magic johnson.

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He’s The Dream Team.

I am listening to the smashing pumpkins :jack_o_lantern:

Shiny and Oh So Bright, Vol. 1 / LP: No Past. No Future. No Sun to be specific, largely because my downstairs neighbours are being annoying, and thought the wo-wo-wo’s are a proportionate response

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I quite like the weird filter sound the goes in time with the music towards the end of marchin’ on

Joke’s on me, have had this stuck in my head for a fucking week now.

I am (involuntarily) listening to the Smashing Pumpkins, I guess.

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Oh its certainly an earworm. With knives for a mouth

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Currently listening to the song Porcelina of the Vast Oceans

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I have listened to the Smashing Pumpkins (new one).

Two and a half times so far. Finding some of the reactions to it somewhat hilarious for their preciousness. It’s fine. Not world shatteringly brilliant, not even consistently good, but there are enough decent /solid songs on it to make it listenable. Even numbered tracks are all either good or great. Odd numbered tracks vary between awful, somewhat tedious and close to average. Don’t get the hysteria about the woah-woah-woahs. Sure, the opening track is pretty bad (well, awful), but the woahs are far from the worst part about it, and there are songs on MCAS that are just as bad.

Even if it doesn’t improve on repeated listens its a 5/10 at the very least. Might claw its way up as high as 7/10. Or it might not. Happy to give it enough listens to find out either way.

I’ve decided I like the second half of the album (maybe what would’ve been the second EP?) but the first half, each song has something that prevents me from enjoying it. Knights of Malta tries to cover up lazy songwriting with overproduction, Silvery Sometimes has a pants chorus, Travels is weedy as hell and the vocals at the start of Solara are abysmal.

There are no songs as bad on Mellon Collie. Pitchfork were spot on with their ‘husk’ of an album comment. Sure it is listenable and has a few interesting moments, but reckon that is true of the vast majority of commercially, it’s just an album devoid of song writing that doesn’t need to exist

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I am listening to Siamese Dream

Geek USA :partying_face:

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Hard to pick a favourite from SD, because they’re all so good, but gun to head, it would be Geek USA.

For this even if nothing else

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