#25

If he really did have a meltdown this season, similar or worse to Chelsea and last season at Madrid. Jesus, would be the most satisfying thing.

Think they’ll do alright though. Top 4 and maybe a cup.

Rooney problem solves itself - he’s so bad he’ll be out of the team in due time, surely, and they’ll be tons better instantly. Literally the only reason he’d continue would be if there is there is that rumoured clause that he has to play if fit, which is pretty much the most mental thing I’ve ever heard but also weirdly be the best explanation

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#26

Been thinking that for three seasons now mate

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#27

Gonna assume everyone’s seen this

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#28

Hasn’t been the same since he returned to Chelsea has he? Looks permenantly fed-up post-RM

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#29

by the way it’s #WENGER20 #RETROSPECTIVE

Obviously the game’s passed him by at the very top level, probably in increasing increments each season since Van Persie left (honestly finishing third with that 11/12 squad is surely one of his most impressive achievements). He’s still a very good manager though, which quite a lot of people choose to forget.

Also just a really good all-round, even kinda inspirational human being, which is maybe hidden a bit to most because you only really get to see that side of him in print interviews and the more chilled out press conferences. Can be very interesting and oddly soothing just to listen to chat about general football stuff, although I can understand how it’d make people cringe who don’t like mixing stuff like football and philosophy. I’ll really miss having a manager like that, though, when he’s replaced (probably next season) by either a Pep-type - whose attacking football is driven by a desire to win but doesn’t really have any concern for placing football within a broader artistic or existentialist context - or one of the German middle-manager types like Tuchel and Klopp who’d massively bore me.

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#31

:smiley: :heart_eyes:

#32

or Matt Hardy

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#33

Post can’t be empty

#34

eh?

#35

pls post some links of wenger talking about art / philosophy.
genuinely interested, I like him a lot but always had the impression that he was even more solely interested in football than most managers

#36

Couldn’t post a blank reply innit. Think, as much as I like some of his stuff, Jonathan Wilson has had a pretty horrendous effect on the way people talk/write about football

#37

it’s usually only in snatches, little comments here and there, cos obviously he’s rarely in a situation where ‘philosophical musings’ or whatever are likely to be indulged. This is a slightly dodgy translation which probably makes him sound a bit wanky in places but it’s good http://news.arseblog.com/2015/11/arsene-wengers-full-interview-with-lequipe-sport-and-style/

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#38

Nah I don’t really bother with Jonathan Wilson. I definitely get why people don’t want to almost ‘gentrify’ football but I came to it as a spectator sport relatively late and it’s that sort of thing that’s always most attracted me to it.

#39

that’s a really good interview

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#40

genuinely dreamt last night that I was watching Football League highlights and one of them was that lad’s wig falling off again in the box

#41

I really want this to be true. When Moyes had just joined, the club apparently had monkeys in charge and was desperately trying to get him to stay? It’s just about possible.

#42

That new contract he signed under Moyes didn’t increase his salary but did increase his income from his image rights based on our commercial deals. I genuinely don’t think it’s inconceivable that part of that agreement was an arrangement that his commercial viability wouldn’t be hampered by being dropped or something.

#43

The Rooney situation is funny because he’s essentially a trophy player now, yet he has no distinguishable ‘trophy’ qualities, just a potato with legs.

#44

It’s great how with every passing year Moyes’ reign only takes on greater flavours and maturity.

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