#502

The people negatively affected by the outsourcing of jobs to Mexico are not the ones who voted for Trump though.

How many times does it have to be explained to you that Trump and Brexit won off the back of commuter town, baby-boomer, middle/upper class white people? i.e. the people who have financially benefited most from the status quo.

#503

This day just gets worse and worse!

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#504

Yeah, I would have thought that would be something they could adjust for eventually, but thinking about it I guess they canā€™t as they have no information on who is lying to be able to base those weights on

#505

well a.) the ā€œhollow phrasesā€ came first b.) itā€™s not just me and c.) yeah we both are m8

#506

A lot of people over 50 also have a lot to answer for

#507

What felt worse (NB not what IS worse)

  • 2015 election
  • Brexit
  • Trump

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#508

The tories and republicans won against centrist candidates pal

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#509

https://twitter.com/sam_kriss/status/796394553423097856

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#510

I think so, too, people have via voting for him legitmised his opinions about women, people of colour, Muslims, people with disabilities, the list goes on. Itā€™s absolutely indefensibleā€¦but at the same time, trying to work out the thinking processes of these voters, it looks like people have voted on the issues most dear to them, in lots of cases jobs, the economy, healthcare and to a lesser extent firearms.

Surely the point that needs addressing is not whether people are or arenā€™t racist, but why thereā€™s such an ambivalence from so many people towards wider issues compared to personal ones. Why do so many people only care about their lot and not the bigger picture? Whyā€™s that moral disconnect occured, where, and where do we even begin to address it? Not sure people fighting Trumpā€™s fire with fireā€™s the way to go, as disappointing and frankly unbelievable as it is heā€™s got in.

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#511

Ah yes. I missed the part where Franco was defeated by all the liberal centrists.

Think i was too busy remembering how all the radical leftists actually fought him, and how busy America and Britain were at ignoring and appeasing his fascism.

Seriously tho I donā€™t think you get quite how offensive that suggestion is. Mocks any decent understandings of postcolonilaism. Gandhi, Malcolm X etc.

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#512

Thanks for the angry and misplaced tone. Always welcome here. This FUCKING place.

Anyway. The news said something different. Radio 4 also did. Iā€™m going with their analysis until I get time to read about it some more.

#513

oh wow!

#514

Sorry to have a pity party but the constant level of general aggro I get on DiS is to be frank completely unacceptable. Please can it be reigned in - politics is politics. No one is fucking your mother.

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#515

My stepdad probably is

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#516

Hope youā€™ve had your weetabix

#517

Legend!

#518

You donā€™t know that.

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#519

some of my best friends are gay weddings

#520

Ed Millibandā€™s Labour lost 8 seats to the Tories and took 6 off them. The Conservatives gainā€™s came at the expense of the Lib Dems - itā€™s their seats that gave the Tories a majority - but Labour increased itā€™s share of the vote overall.

Cilinton won the fucking popular vote.

This crisis of liberalism is a great narrative but it is no way near as cut and dried as is being implied. Yes the left lost both times but it was far from a thrashing and nothing about either result suggests that an overt swing to the left is a solution that either country would embrace.

#521

jesus, just looking through the results of past elections, canā€™t believe how lopsided the 1984 election is. 40.6% of the votes for Mondale which gives him a total result of 13 to 525. the electoral college is so weird.