#104

actually not sure about the south, they had a parallel vote on the GFA but i can’t remember whether they need to vote about whether or not to accept the north, or whether that’s already implicit in the GFA that they will. would need to read it again.

there are a few in the south who complain about the idea of a united Ireland and it’s impact on Ireland’s economy etc but i feel like they’re a minority.

#105

But what happens though if it’s like 75-25 in favour of reunification in the south & 49-51 against in the North?

If you took that by total population it would be 67 - 33 (roughly), a clear majority for unification but essentially the south dictating to the north. Seems like that could be tricky/dangerous

#106

nah the GFA definitely states that it has to be a majority in favour in the north.

if there has to be a southern vote too (which i don’t think there does but i could be wrong) the results would only apply in the event of a majority in the north.

from memory i’m pretty certain the agreement states that whatever the will of the north is will definitely be carried out, but i occasionally see dweebs in the south saying they’d reject it in a vote which makes me doubt myself and wonder if that is a condition after all.

i should probably know this

#107

I doubt any of the ministers involved know this for sure either so don’t beat yourself up about it.
But yeah, a reunification vote in the north followed by some kind of ratification in the south sounds pretty logical

#108

https://twitter.com/frayne_jack/status/1005127597934641159

#109

Ah, that tolerant, internationalist era of 2013 at the Daily Mail…

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#110

and just to head off the “you might have bills to pay as a young buck reporter” defence:

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#111

a year ago today :joy:

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#112

The absolute boying and my most liked post on here by some distance on the same day. Basically became my new birthday.

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#113

Me irl

I mean, I’m not retraining as something that can actually help people, but I’m also not contributing to shitting on groups that really do not need any extra shit/fascistic rhetoric/outright lies and tortured spin to enable the worst people and ideologies

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#114

Just been chatting to an American guy in my hostel who was v into politics (including British) and I got to teach him the most important thing of all from the last few years… that David Cameron fucked a pig.

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#115

Not a lot of interest in this Lewisham by-election as it was a safe Labour seat, but the Labour margin has been slashed:

#116

Hmm

I wish I could peer into that alternate reality in which Corbyn ran last years GE on exactly the same manifesto but pledged to remain in Europe

it’s so frustratingly tantalising to not have any hard figures on how deeply Brexit cuts across party allegiances

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#117

On 33% turnout with a swing to the LD’s who whilst in parliamentary terms are a joke remain a surprisingly popular option for a protest vote in by elections ‘n’ ting. I wouldn’t read anything into it.

(By which I mean this doesn’t mean the seat’s now approaching marginal territory in any meaningful sense, in spite of what the numbers say)

#118

Anyone going to Labour Live! this weekend? Genuine question.

#119

Starting to think Corbyn’s fucked it and it’s all just a massive waste of time.

#121

What’s he done to fuck it in just 12 months since the election?

#123

Built up a huge and active new membership of the party. Broke the seemingly unbreakable grip of the Mandelson/Campbell adherents over same. More or less single-handedly made soc-dem policies politically viable again. Prevented what would have amounted to a full fascist take-over of the country last year from seemingly nowhere.

We’re back in open season on Jez in the media now, and will be until the next election forces them to momentarily put the brickbats down, so things will seem bleak for a while (particularly with all of the rest of the awful shit currently going on). But even if he resigned tomorrow, we will have made huge strides forward in the last couple of years that can’t be taken away by a few twit-stalkers who have had their brains broken by Brexit yelling that he’s the worst thing that’s ever happened.

tl;dr dry your eyes, soldier.

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#125

coming in 2019 though innit

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#126

Eh, that fear will always exist. We are an extremely conservative country and a huge swathe of the population continues to wholeheartedly swallow what the Murdochs and the Dacres tell them. Another swathe are exactly like yer man Jolyon up there, ‘reasonable’ people who see the world how the Beeb and the Guardian like to frame it, in which the current Labour is far too spicy and non-neoliberally to be allowed near power.

I honestly think whoever follows Jez will find that lot even more hostile because a) they will be younger and therefore more suspect and b) will not so obviously be a polite jam-making duffer.

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