It might help if the people who consume the porn that has been banned choose to see this as an attack on an industry that cannot exist in an ethical way with society as it is and not as an attack on their individual freedoms and abstain from it. I’ve stopped watching porn because even though I used to enjoy it and you can have a really good orgasm, I think separating the superficial content from the financial coercion involved is really bad for our mental health.

start your own ultraviolent gang, sheeple.

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I think you’re oversimplifying and generalising based on your own shame based on your consumption and relationship with porn tbh. Like with any industry there is plenty of exploitative and non exploitative content out there.

I mean it’s a slippery moral slope and in the context of this particularly sexist, misogynistic, kink shaming and borderline transphobic and homophobic ban - is another discussion entirely to be honest.

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I don’t think I feel comfortable discussing it with you, I find your responses have an attacking undertone, maybe because you think I’m trolling. Its like you’re making out you’re caring for others but I just feel from you a bit of a cold know-it-all vibe.

Imagine a DiSer having that vibe!

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(Which isn’t a slight on you by the way)

Guys, I just want to be able to watch clips of people passing wind while sat on a victoria sponge.

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It’s like he doesn’t actually feel anything but just wants to show how right/right-on he is

uploaded by one of those people without the knowledge of the other in, I’d estimate, about 95% of cases

I got two happy people and a smartphone. Where it’s at!

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Seems like a strange personal attack when he’s made pretty reasonable points, maybe cause I know EMO IRL IDK

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That’s a crazy figure you’ve pulled from your arse*

*Now a banned act

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And I’d be worried about other kinds of coercive control in the other 5%

Probably because people have been unnecessarily hard on her on this thread, despite expressing something perfectly reasonable. Different opinion to the hivemind =/= trolling u guys

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well even if it was 30%, which seems ridiculously optimistic to me, that would be pretty awful given the sheer volume of content (act now banned).

I don’t understand that point. If the people involved aren’t making money and doing it for fun it’s till a problem because the site they upload to is making money from it? What about a site like flikr that isn’t exclusively for/aimed it nude pics?

Is it anyone using their naked body to make money that’s the issue? If so why? Is posing as a life model acceptable but posing for top shelf mags not?

(this is all a bit steam of conciseness and not an attack, just trying to grasp the angle)

Now a banned act.

:smiley: I so nearly said that myself

Yeah there’s been a bit of an unecessary pile-on. But I also think there seems to be two different debates going on. Like Casseroles (correct me if I’m wrong) seems to be railing against the porn industry at large, which is a different, long argument for a different time. I would argue that this ruling has nothing to do with the porn industry and the way it’s run, nothing to do with protecting performers, and is instead about defining a ‘normal’ and demonising and estranging people whose behaviours fall outside of this

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That logic didn’t save sheeeeit!