These are the leaders

https://community.drownedinsound.com/badges/4/leader

But I think a user’s post being deleted without context is the first time that has happened, which is what I’m unhappy about.

Agree with everything else though Deebs, I’m sorry if this thread feels like it’s singling you out, not my intention when I agreed to it :frowning_face:

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Yeah this is exactly my issue too. An innocuous, enquiring post anyway.

I don’t think that it’s particularly helpful to keep dwelling on who did what/what happened in this particular case. It would be far more beneficial to use this as an opportunity to decide as a community how we want things to run going forward.

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Aye.

The trouble is, this is a discussion we probably need to have at some point, but it’s also only happened now because of a specific thing.

Again - pretty much everyone with superpowers in this place does a fantastic job pretty much all the time. I’ve said it before, but think it bears repeating.

Mistakes are make of course at times and always will be, which is why my personal focus has tried to be less on how/why this happened and more on how we try and reduce the risk of this in the future.

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I was definitely doing some serious trolling in that read receipts thread yesterday and I’m really sorry if that ended up escalating things. It wasn’t and will never be my intention to make people feel uncomfortable on here.

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Aye, same.

Whilst my instincts wherever conflict comes up is to run towards, “can’t we all just get along?” hippy platitudes I think it’s healthy that discussions like this crop up every now and again. From what I’ve ascertained from reading posts about the initial thread it seems that for a few users at least there was an underlying anxiety about the transparency about the way these boards are run and that they’ve reached a critical mass here so it’s a perfect time to talk through how we all want to see incidents dealt with in future. It’s not really about the original thread any more so far as I can see.

Over the life cycle of internet communities moments like this can make or break them and I’d like to think the bonds we’ve all made on here are strong enough to survive a chat about the state of play. I used to think getting so invested in Internet Business was a bit silly but I’ve come to realise that since I spend more time in here with you guys than I do with just about anyone IRL it’s sillier to devalue that by dismissing it as dumb internet stuff.

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from what i saw the original posts weren’t that bad but still kind of provocative & i don’t think unlisting stuff is that big a deal. didn’t seem like such an important thread in the first place

would quite like an unlisted thread for me and my crew to hang out in

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Would be so easy to make a new The TST these days. Best ma0sm has one on the go.

this has nowt to do with me at all and i don’t know the specifics but i noticed one user said the double standards on this forum are ridiculous and there was some pushback about it from other people saying that’s not true. i don’t even interact with this user all that much and i have noticed they seem to get dunked on all the time for the most innocuous stuff.

i started a thread a long time ago celebrating the start of ww3 because of the US/NK situation at the time and it got lots of likes, bantery engagement, etc. maybe one or two users said hey mate that is out of order, so we had a discussion about it and agreed to disagree. that was it. certainly no deleting of my posts or unlisting of my thread. and no beef that spread across multiple threads.

seems like i was given the benefit of the doubt where others are not, have seen people dismantled for far less on here. seems a bit off imo, there has to be a better way. CW tags, etc.

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I know, and I am the same, but you and I are pretty robust people. Not everybody is and the point that has emerged is that we ought to be submitting ourselves to policing if even one person gets upset about a post or a thread (regardless of how funny and innocent the majority find it.) If that is what the forum wants then the rules about who can wield the decision making power to act on a complaint, and how they exercise it, will need to be carefully thought through. Otherwise what’s the point in posting? At present mods have a wide discretion but they have not generally wielded their power unless something has been objectively not on. If what are we are saying is that is now an entirely subjective test, then there needs to be some thought given as to how that works.

I think it’s ok to say people’s names, especially as she’s not here to defend herself and she’s on holiday.

Meow cops so much flak on here. I’m not at all surprised she was so upset yesterday.

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Would it be a good idea to ban bringing up posts and threads from the old board (if any beeves are contained within)? I’m sure we’d all agree that we wouldn’t agree with all of the viewpoints we held in the past, and some of us have posts on there that are 15 years old.

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:grimacing: :wink:

Yes and no… I can see the logic, but for me it also serves to draw attention to the thing that suddenly went missing. Almost every time a thread went MIA in the past we saw another one spring up to ask “What happened to…” Mind you, there’s not necessarily a “right” answer

I would like to be made ceremonial puppet King

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unless it’s one of xylo’s posts pre-commie face turn, i like to remind myself how far my boy has come :wink:

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This is something I’ve had an unspoken issue with recently. There seems to be a lot of threads from 5-10 years ago being dug up recently (rarely to attack someone but just in general), and I’m not sure whether its a good thing. It doesn’t affect me personally - I’ve posted some awful stuff in the past which I regret and have apologised for numerous times, but if people want to judge me for it then thats fine - but it could definitely have an effect on someone, whether it is something that was said to them or something they said and have seperated themselves from - and I think people should be more considerate when doing it.

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Maybe not ban, because that’s pretty restrictive, but users should probably pay more consideration to what purpose they’re serving by doing so - I don’t think it adds anything to the community we’re trying to build.

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Why the hell do people need to settle scores about throw away comments written on a message board 3, 5, 7 years ago? Seriously?

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