#282

FEAR CANNOT LOOK ENDEARING UNLESS YOU ARE SOME KIND OF MONSTER WHO LOVES FEAR.

I am well aware of those meanings which is obviously why I questioned its use.

#283

GAZE INTO THE FIST OF DREDD.

Ah, okay. Sounded a bit weird but basically fine to me: all we’ve learned about her is how gorgeous she is, so she looks sweet even when she’s terrified? Maybe.

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#284

It’s just bad really is all I mean. Unless winning had a different sense, back then, like how people in books contemporary to this would be described as ‘excited’ when these days we’d more likely say ‘agitated’.

Anyway, I totally admit a lot of my feelings on this are very much based on personal appraisal. I just don’t like the same simile being used close together like that. And I don’t like not being sure I am interpreting the same thing the writer intends :grimacing:

#285

@AQOS these different editions are a bit rum.

Does the original place you got this from say how many chapters total are expected?

#286

Aha @dingaling @McGarnagle reading the Reddit things says this of chapter 9:

Sorry it’s late today, my automated post didn’t work and I didn’t notice until just now. Gutenberg version is reading chapter 12 today.

So there must be a list somewhere for us cheap bastards

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#287

ahh, that makes more sense! Maybe I’ll get the penguin version if it’s under a quid (lol)

#288

I’m reading the Gutenberg version. This is what I’m planning to read today:

#289

Scroll right on this spreadsheet

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/1/d/e/2PACX-1vQn6_ButLtvbkmQ81yF3wnhBEWqbJUE39A9eWoLDyMiKzhPRYZ4o7Q_sHK_k5vX-Khb9m4a3MO7demm/pubhtml

#290

Aha. So today, us Gutenbergers should get to the end of Chapter 12 to be in the same place as the Penguiners?

#291

Seems like it.

How the blue fuck is this the situation though?

#293

Penguin chapter 9 or Gutenberg chapter 9?

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#294

Looks like once we get to Part II we’ll all be on the same page (SEE WHAT I DID THERE) so this thread will be much less confusing.

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#296

I thought it looked literally like once we are reading chapter 13 to thrir chapter 10 it’s all good?

(Nice punning, yes!)

#297

At the end of your chapter did they just finish the window sill game and run off to another party clutching a bear?

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#298

did he dance with a bear

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#299

Could come in a variety of places. The Gutenberg is probably based of an earlier translation that is likely based on an early Russian edition of the novel. When Penguin commissioned the new translation they may have gone back to Tolstoy’s manuscripts and seen that his chapter breaks were different but decided it made more sense and so re-edited it. That would be my guess. Doesn’t matter much, I’ll catch up then it should be analogous.

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#301

Ah, but as Bam’s hero Kozelek would say, it’s important that you put everything out there in all its ugliness/unvarnished glory and not just cherrypick the idealised or aspects of life which cast you in a good light. Pierre’s at the beginning of a journey and he’s trying to work out what/who he is, and where he fits into the world.

We’re all flawed and we all have elements of our character that we’re not too happy with - it’s just being human I guess?

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#302

I honestly thought you’d be reading some musty old version at the shop. That it would come out of a cabinet that could only be opened by three different managers with three different keys and then one of you would use the white cotton gloves to open it and read the day’s chapter to the staff.

1 like = 1 agreement about this vision

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#303

I’m picturing Grand Budapest Hotel where Zero reads to rest of the staff during meals.

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#305

if zero was played by jason statham

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