DONT CHEAPEN THIS

:laughing: exactly this, as though they’re trying to out do each other in their outrage
 running up to the telly gesticulating wildly.
GBOL

Was a fucking magical old Italian bloke sat next to me at the Milan derby. Was there with his wife, both must’ve been in their 70s I’d say, both brought their own cushions to pop on their seats. Sat in complete silence not saying a word to each other pre-match, as soon as it kicked off he was constantly moaning at her about the match, gesticulating wildly etc, shut up again as soon as the HT whistle went and sat in silence again before starting up again in the second half. She just soaked it up throughout, I properly loved them.

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The passion and history of Italian football trumps that of all other countries for me. Have you read Calcio by John Foot?

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Aye, was my reading material for that trip. It’s cracking. Was looking for a Milan specific equivalent to Fear and Loathing in La Liga but it doesn’t seem to exist.

SCOTLAND: Cowdenbeath

ITALY: Juve
GERMANY: Dortmund
SPAIN: Barca
FRANCE: ???
PORTUGAL:???
HOLLAND: Ajax

Basically just teams who were class in the mid-late 90s and I’d see on Football Italia/Champions League.

not massively invested but tend to root for Feyenoord & Sparta despite them being rivals. both good clubs.
ADO are the closest club to me but they’re a bit Millwall.

I tend to ‘support’ (follow) teams with or who have had ex Liverpool players in. So I’d quite like to see Lazio do alright with Lucas there, but I tend to follow Napoli over the at the moment following the Rafa link. Usually support Barca in Spain but I’m going off them for obvious reasons. Dortmund in Germany because I liked them when Klopp was there (which worked out well), and they still sort of seem like the underdog, but in a less reprehensible way than RB Leipzig).

Why do so many people like Barca? They’re hateful.

I could forgive them that from 2008-11 when they were amazing to watch but now, bleh.

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Ronaldo for me, basically. Then Rivaldo, Pep etc.

Most of mine started with individuals. I had a proper thing for Baggio/Italy around 94 when I was a kid. Had the shirt. He played for Juve. Rest is history.

ITALY: U.S. Inveruno
GERMANY: FC Oberneuland
SPAIN: Marbella FC
FRANCE: OFC Charleville
PORTUGAL: S.U. Sintrense
HOLLAND: SV Spakenburg

Can anyone recommend good books about football in specific countries?

A few i’ve liked


ITALY:
Calcio by John Foot.

SPAIN:
Morbo by Phil Ball.
Fear and Loathing in La Liga by Sid Lowe.
Barça by Graham Hunter.

GERMANY:
Tor by Uli Hesse.
Das Reboot by Rafa Honingstein.

HOLLAND:
Brilliant Orange by David Winner.

BRAZIL:
Futebol by Alex Bellos.

EASTERN EUROPE:
Behind the Curtain by Jonathan Wilson.

Yeah it’s individuals for me.

Ronaldo – Ronaldinho – Messi. Love watching those boys play their soccerball.

Iniesta too :heart_eyes:

Looking forward to tucking into Wilson’s new one about Argentina: Angels With Dirty Faces

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I think they’ve played some quite good football over recent years.

Same. One of a few out at the minute that look very good, along with


The Fall of the House of FIFA by David Conn.
The Billionaire’s Club by James Montague.
Doctor Socrates by Andrew Downie.
Puskas by Gyorgy Szollozi.
Spirit of '58 - Evan Marshall.

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yeah that was basically it- great kit (w/ unicef instead of a sponsor), great stadium, amazing football, 3 or 4 of the world’s best players, almost all brought up through the youth team, home grown, likeable manager, wasn’t hard to like them. they’ve totally flown up their own arses recently, and are basically intolerable on every level.

I have that on CD, it’s one of the few albums that Music Magpie won’t take for some reason


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