What a jerk

Everyone’s favourite fat tongued chef, Jamie Oliver, is getting a bit of grief for cultural appropriation after selling some jerk rice pouch thing.

Any opinions on this?
Ever eaten tongue?

He took our twizzlers, he named his kids stupid names, now he’s a daft racist. I hope he dies.

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Bit harsh

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It’s fine

Yes

But it’s not fine

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He should only be allowed to sell spam and dripping pouches or whatever it is that you englischers eat.

I think so long as he acknowledges the origins of the food he’s cooking, and pays his dues, he’s fine to do that and work out his own recipe.

I’m a bit confused about this whole cultural appropriation thing - how far does it go? Surely people have been mixing up cultures for all time. I appreciate that many cultures have been at the losing end of this, which is why it’s important to credit where it’s due, but is the end point that people stop borrowing from other cultures (I’m not being a dick, I’m genuinely interested)?

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of course I’ve eaten tongue

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I think he’s done an excellent job of getting himself some free publicity. It’s almost like he does it on purpose.

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But wouldn’t the flip side of that be that he didn’t use the word jerk, then people pointed out that his ingredients are similar to jerk recipes, and then he’s in an even worse place?

Jerk rice isn’t a thing, so he deserves to be ridiculed.

Reminds of a time at a previous job when they tried “International Day” in the canteen and I had to explain to the chef that ‘rice and peas’ doesn’t mean English garden peas. Nothing to get that upset about though.

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Next you’re telling me there’s no bacon in bacon-flavoured crisps

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porridge and boiled mutton according to the new york times

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No, the point is to not exploit other cultures from a relative position of power.

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Potatoes are OFF the menu.

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But surely in every relationship one partner has greater power than the other?

And how do you deal with historic cultural appropriation?

Unless you’re Peruvian

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I’m not sure that this is true necessarily, but even if it is there are degrees. Colonialism, for example, is not a cultural exchange between equals.

I don’t know what you mean by “deal with”, but… acknowledge that it’s bad?

If he had a chicken dish with actually jerk seasoning in it, he would’ve been alright.

If he had some rice and probably threw in some kidney beans and coconut cream and called it non-descript “Jamie’s Caribbean rice”, he probably would’ve been alright.

If he called it anything other than “jerk” referring to a specific seasoning/flavour, he probably would’ve been alright.

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Really weird to see anti-Corbyn Labour types laying into Dawn Butler on this, and you have to assume that they’re doing so in bad faith.