I really like the peaty islay ones that makes your eyes water as you go for a mouthful. Proper way to end a sesh

I also like puking into a bin and tasting like bonfires

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whisky

  • clearly a great drink
  • is there any way you could dilute my ribena any further?

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this reminds me that my dad thought he had some special beers kept to one side after he was bought them for his birthday or summat one year, dunno why he thouhgt they were special but anyway we were out of beers and going through their drinks cabinet at christmas a couple of years ago and were like dad why are these in here and he was like oh theyre special and it was like a bottle of spitfire or bishops finger or something that went off two years ago :smiley:

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I had a load of homebrew at the back of a cupboard from about four years ago. Didn’t want to risk drinking it so I poured it down the sink. Smelled incredible though

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Luckily (or not I suppose) a lot of these collections don’t actually amount to much. If it is new boxed Marvel action figures or whatever, give it twenty years and Ebay or equivalent will be saturated with them. It is the old stuff that no one thought about keeping that is worth money, and that is why it is worth money.

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Somewhere out there is an art collector who paid too much for his Damien Hirst painting and he will never make any money on it. His name is not Charles Saatchi, obviously.

Shame he can’t by himself some friends.

The money’s in crisp packets

Yeah, it’s about being the guy who gets in early and has the clout to get others to take notice

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That does sound good. Can you remember the name of it? Wouldn’t mind having a look.

There was another thing on Radio 4 a while back about counterfeit wine that covered a bit about those secure storage houses. All pretty bonkers.

The documentary Sour Grapes on Netflix is all about wine fraud and it’s excellent. Shows how much of the industry rests on trust and bullshit, because who can even reliably say what a 60 year old Petrus should taste like?

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I think it was this one-

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Who are we to say it won’t turn into Vimto?

It’s about this guy:

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I assumed that was another Sideways-type film! Sounds interesting though. Might give it a watch

Have been meaning to watch that for ages. Will pull my finger out. This is the R4 thing.

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It’s really entertaining, lots of big characters. It’s mainly rich fucks getting scammed too so no real victims (annoyingly one of the guys who calls it out is one of the Koch brothers, one of the only people rich enough to risk tanking the value of his cellar by saying, hey, I think this guy has been scamming us.)

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Ah, nice one. :+1:

In that R4 doc they talk about uncovering a massive batch of fake 80s Petrus or something and telling the buyer, who was some Russian oligarch type who basically said “I don’t really care. People at my dinner party will still be impressed”.

It’s a bizarre situation, at a certain point no one benefits from exposing the fraud because it just undermines the value of the whole market and costs everyone money, so there are a lot of victims who would rather it never gets exposed, even if they know personally they’ve been ripped off (because if you can still sell it on for the right price, I guess you never really lost out)

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