#162

Right, so:

[spoiler]I thought on the whole it was excruciatingly bad, with a couple of somewhat redeeming moments.

  • The whole thing seemed more comedy infused than the originals, like more surreal than the original whimsy. This is probably for the best, because when it tried to be serious, it generally fell fucking flat

  • The sheer amount of call backs to previous bits was unnecessary, just felt put in out of obligation. Why Dean? “Tristan”? Even Sookie, would have been easier without her.

  • Rory left her own grandfather’s funeral early to go fuck her engaged ex in London. Nice! And Lorelai’s story… even if she was drunk / angry, seems so out and out wrong and not even in character. Just daft plotting to reinsert a gap between her and Emily.

  • Everything Rory did was awful. Logan, “Paul” (how hilarious! A gag basically stolen from Arrested Development), she deserved to have a failed career. The thing with the town newspaper made no sense (two full time staff but the editor was unpaid? Okay). SandeeSays, getting Mitchum’s help wth Conde Nast… even her brilliant idea to do a book wasn’t her idea. And of course she should have expected Lorelai to be upset about it. Also, you’re 32 and have been given everything on your life on a plate, riches beyond imagining. If you’re failing at shit, it’s your fault. Deal with it. Seriously, fuck Rory.

  • Lorelai wasn’t much better. Her and Luke still don’t seem like a functional couple - the surrogacy thing was never properly resolved, they kept on talking around it (while also partly ignoring April).

  • That musical sequence took fucking hours for approximately zero payoff. The fuck? What was the therapist doing there too?

  • The Wild bit - do the Palladinos have some grudge against Cheryl Strayed? Felt like a suggestion in a writer’s meeting that got out of hand. The whole thing was badly paced and edited, but that in particular felt superfluous.

  • The general whiteness / privilege etc that always existed just got ramped right up, didn’t it? Emily’s “hilarious” foreign family, the cringey gay pride bit, the ludicrous displays of wealth (even worse than the Life & Death Brigade shit was just Rory flying back and forth from London). Paris’ house was literally too big for her nanny! The pool bits with the child slaves and fat shaming was very odd too.

  • At one point they stole a gag straight from Family Guy (the Wizard of Oz “I’ll miss you the most of all / Hey, we heard that” line).

  • Everything it took the piss out of - Cronuts, Man buns (more than once), Hamilton, Uber, etc etc - felt out of date already.

POSITIVES, SUCH AS THEY WERE

Emily was great, the only actually enjoyable character arc in it.
Paris, Kirk, Michel, Taylor, Babette, etc, still bringing the goods. Michel had the best LOL moment (“Did you play Rolfe from the Sound of Music one to many times?”) Paris kicking the door shut too, that was good.
Luke’s speech in the kitchen injected some heart into the thing.
Logan and Jess both got really buff! JFC. How do I look like Jess.

Yeah, I think that’s it. So who’s the daddy of Rory’s baby then/ Logan or the Wookie are the only two people she shagged right? They’re not actually going to make any more, are they?

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#163

RORY IS PREGNANT AS A SURROGATE FOR LORELAI AND LUKE???

Enjoyed that wee rant Hygzy, nice one mate.

#166

He’s a dreamboat:

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#167

*walking-cliche bellend

#168

He’s not aged tremendously has he

#169

He’s a handsome bloke but that fucking character man, he’s like the lamest cliche of a “bad-boy” that’s ever existed

#170

WHAT? He’s aged spectacularly. Teenage him looked like he could have been in Blazin’ Squad or something.

#171

Sorry man no offence meant!!!

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#172

Nah, arguably he’s the only character who ever really properly grew up (by leaving Stars Hollow in his dust). He was a bad boy teenage twat, he’s one of the least objectionable characters now.

#173

Nah, that in and of itself was fucking dull and cliched, the bookworm bad-boy with a heart of gold going off to find himself like he’s fucking Jack Kerouac or whatever? Nah mate, I’ll pass thanks. Admittedly he felt more like a person in the few minutes he got in the revival but nothing redeemed his existence in the first place.

#174

I understand why you’d personally dislike him but I feel like you’re holding him under greater scrutiny than other characters or the show as a whole really deserves :confused:

#175

Nah, the good thing about this show is that the characters largely hold up to that scrutiny (it’s why it’s so watchable despite having two protagonists who are just straight-up bad people so regularly), there’s a degree of depth and legitimacy to the majority of them that just wasn’t there with Jess IMO. I understand the requirement of him as a character and the direction it inspired Rory to go in was definitely needed I just thought he was really poorly written.

#176

Really? It just seemed like a bunch of racial/class stereotypes surrounding the two main gals to me.

#177

Hard working honest trucker hat man, ditzy/preppy poshos, repressed asian family, funny fat person, camp french man, etc etc
There’s a load of wafer thin characters really

#178

On the surface level for sure but there’s depth to both of them (that Lauren Graham does a much, much better job of portraying for sure). It’s why the scenes with Emily and Luke are always the best, because there is actual subtext to them based on their histories and characterisation that rings true.

#179

Some of the townsfolk are wafer-thin for sure but they’re not really there to add much beyond comic-relief and quirk. The more important members of the supporting cast are really well fleshed-out IMO, Lane and Sookie in particular (very often as a result of having to put up with the shitheads they’ve chosen to be best friends with)

#180
#181

Just watched this over christmas. first boxset I binged, probably a good 8 years since I finished it and thought I might hate it now. Actually quite enjoyed it, felt the characters were still themselves for the most part* and it broadly had the same tone/feel as before.

Could write a lot more but @anon5266188 and @hip_young_gunslinger summaries (weirdly i agree with almost every gripe above but still found it overall quite positive?) nailed it.

Would add/emphasise though;

*Really liked Rory from the original series, thought she was good despite doing shitty things. Maybe I wouldn’t feel that way if I watched it now. But in this with her bf / Logan’s fiancee it kind’ve felt like she’s just a straight-up awful selfish person - was it that unambiguous before? Also found it unfitting Lorelai literally didn’t care about that awfulness. Also urgh if (or surely just that) Logan is the dad/pregnancy ending

Doesn’t help that Logan is literally the least likeable person I think i’ve seen in anything. I have no idea what they’re going for, but surely we’re not supposed to like him / his awful awful rich friends? Weird he was the main one they brought back

Always liked Jess tbh.

Thought the backstory and history is by far the strongest element of the show. The best parts were the conversations about Lorelai’s past and Rory’s upbringing - Lorelai’s phonecall to her mum, Chris cameo being the most worthwhile one, etc. The funeral bit felt like a ridiculous and unbelievable route to take to for Emily/Lorelai conflict though

Scheduling really really told with that final episode huh

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#182

One more episode of the new ones left. Will watch today. Pleasantly low stakes stuff, lots of chemistry from the original still there. Obvs a couple of howling moments.

Must’ve been nice for the original writers to have the last say.

#183

They’re all great. It’s a great show.