#2558

I often wonder what it is about the British psyche that can’t ever let go of WWII. It’s extremely bleak to think that nothing has happened in 70+ years of peace that has become anything like such a cultural touchstone - certainly not the 70+ years of peace themselves. Millions of people have to die in order for our country to be inspired.

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#2559

Why don’t brexiteers grasp what leaving the EU means? This is literally what you (Digby not you obv) voted for, to be a third country!

#2560

70+ years of war in other countries

#2561

read a very good article that claims we never got over winning ww2, i assume linked from here

can’t remember much more about it than that tho

#2562

I’ve read some good stuff in the past on OpenDemocracy about the national psyche.

#2563
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#2564

This is one of John Redwood’s ideas right?

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#2565

soubry on c4 news there slagging off corbs. “can’t believe he’s not stopping us. we are fucking the country right up and he’s not stopping us. i mean we’re really going to fuck it right up. what’s he playing at?”

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#2566

Really needs to get on with it tbh.

#2567

‘It beggars belief Corbyn isn’t stopping me from eating children, and let me be clear Krishnan, I’m doing that with pride’

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#2568

This one?

#2569

And they’ve fucked it. Ignore the BBC guy’s rather tepid interpretation of it. This is designed to undermine Corbyn and makes Brexit, especially a no deal Brexit, much more likely.

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#2571

So Corbyn’s gambit of a vote of no confidence in May as a sop to these clapping seals who need their grand pointless gesture now failed miserably. On the other hand, they would’ve done this anyway. As I keep saying, there’s no good options, no way of circumventing the fact Parliament’s 80% cynical grifters and outright imbeciles. The sheer patheticness of party politics is going to drag us into the abyss.

In a better world, how badly the Lib Dems in particular are failing their voters would be under a much harsher spotlight.

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#2572

as a FBPEer

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#2573

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May thought she had it there a while ago, but like an eejit she kept banging away.

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#2575

Might be the painkillers, but why?

#2576

Tabling a vote of no confidence when you know that you do not have the numbers to carry the motion (because the DUP are not on your side yet, and because no Tory MPs will vote with you), will inevitably strengthen the government and will unite the Tory Party.

Tabling a vote of no confidence like they have done is meant to try and bounce Labour into backing a second referendum now, too early, and is meant to make Labour drop in the polls. Both of those will also strengthen the government.

#2577

how come they keep pretending this will happen

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#2578

It doesn’t really matter why people are saying it (all politics , innit), only that it’s why jumping the gun on no confidence in the government now is mad. You can’t win now, but you might win later.

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