#2429

Yeah it’s a no confidence in her not the government.
Vote of no confidence in the government will never pass

#2430

It’s an odd mechanism tbh.

Last one only passed because the SNP had grievances with the Callaghan government over the 70s Indyref and voted with the Tories, despite them obviously being properly anti devolution. Deeply weird stuff.

#2431

amazing spin here

she might get told off by management again for this tbh

#2432

or mybe not, who gives a shit

#2433

This deserved a better response

#2434

:joy::rofl::joy::rofl:

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#2435

Has this all been an elaborate long con by the tories to make Corbs shoot his wad early and lose the next GE as a result?

#2436

Why would the government grant Corbyn this debate? If they don’t, either Labour have to table a full government no confidence motion, which they don’t seem to want to do, or Labour do nothing.

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#2437

Because she will look like a coward if they don’t

Tories that no confidenced her saying that they’ll back her shows it’s the tories that are putting party before country

#2438

It would strengthen May’s position if they think they’d win it.

#2440

Yeah, but if they were to say something along the lines of “If you want to call no confidence then do it properly” then it would sort of call Labour’s bluff, as I’m assuming they’d rather wait until the deal is voted down.

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#2441

But bouncing him into calling a governmental no confidence vote then winning that would strengthen it more?

#2442

Sure, but Corbyn still gets to imply the house doesn’t have confidence in May and she’s refusing to allow the vote because she knows it.

#2443

…but with an almost universally anti-corbyn press (basically being presented as political games by the bbc for example) and no necessity for the vote to go ahead, whats the point?

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#2444

Looked at like that it’s lose/lose. He couldn’t have got away with giving the same speech as last week either - would have got it in the neck from all angles. Better from that point of view to at least not look inert?

#2445

I think it would’ve been better to continue to hold fire. To the general public this looks like another pointless vote on the heels of another pointless vote, parliament fucking around for no reason. Allowing the Tories to hang themselves with their own rope has worked so far, reminding them why they have to support each other isn’t good. Better to continue pretending Labour are an inert force until the really important vote.

But as already said, no good options really.

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#2446

i’m in a facebook group that has thrown the occasional interesting discussion

today someone said that as new countries join, their workers flood the richer countries and are exploited because employers can get away with it. eventually they organise themselves, learn about the legal side of things and are less easily exploited. so the employers just turn to countries who have joined recently. someone said this exploitation is a reason to leave the EU, my response was this

leaving the EU in hope of improving workers right and working conditions?

hahahahaha! yeah cos JRM and co are all about making sure low paid workers are treated nicely

leaving the EU to improve those things is like firebombing your house cos the radiators don’t work

i think that final sentence is the best brexit analogy i’ve managed so far, and i’ve genuinely spent at least a couple of minutes a day since the referendum trying to think of them

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#2447

If that’s true then it would be a fairly legit criticism of the EU though?

#2448

Also genuine left labour & brexit might be better than Tories & EU

#2449

I’m with you on this stuff by the way.

I think fundamentally the cost of Brexit is far too high for it to be weighed up against improvements to our current system. Which is fucking shit.

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