There is absolutely nothing to be gained by socialising with a grown-ass adult that makes noises for attention. If they think you’re rude and aloof then good, they’ll be less likely to try and socialise.
New personal best today: he phoned our team’s administrator and made her come to the kitchen and fetch me so he could ask me something over the phone.
Don’t know if we suggested this before but perhaps when he does it you should take a big mouthful of whatever you’re eating and then reply without swallowing it. Repeat until he fucks off.
Might not have had the required impact over the phone, but noted for future use.
the most annoying person in my office does this. also yawns loudly, grunts all the time, says oh shit! hahaha really loudly when they make a mistake, is always tapping out rhythms on their desk and humming songs they hope people will recognise and presumably engage in discussion about. also does that thing where they pop their knuckles and sometimes click their fingers. if they have even a slight cold or sore throat all you hear all day is really loud coughing. all of it just for human contact and attention. fucking hell. dreadful person.
Used to work with someone who regularly made fart noises for attention. I once reported him to HR because he did “the eyes” behind a Chinese colleague’s back. Just Googled him and he’s since been promoted, so yay for him I suppose.
I say “fuck” and “fuck OFF” a lot to my computer. I’m not sorry.
A colleague of mine who in many respects is an absolute top bloke and borderline genius suddenly took up humming the theme tune to Star Wars all day the other week. He’s left now though so it’s all good.
There are managers here, but the problem is it is just a really chatty office environment in general (although it’s suddenly got even worse thanks to these newbies), I doubt they’d really care, or that anything could be done even if they did, because it happens to be very much the norm in this department (plus I’m also contemplating reporting one of my managers for bullying, although she’s really nice to me now so I might not bother).
I’m seriously thinking about just quitting now, even though I haven’t got another job lined up.
I know that’s far from ideal, but today was absolutely horrific, probably the worst so far and that’s saying a lot. Almost exactly what I expected with some alarming accuracy (I knew how the events of the day we’re going to unfold, and then the corresponding rubbish I’d have to put up with), it’s going to be like this permanently now.
I’m not sure I can face another minute of this and I’ve gone back to drinking in the middle of the week to help take the edge off, a habit I recently managed to kick. Luckily I have a lot of annual leave this month (and I think the notice period is one month) so the sooner I hand my notice in, the fewer the days I’ll actually have to be there (even tempted to just phone in sick for the rest of the non-annual leave days this month, so I’ll never have to go back there again. I probably won’t do that).
Feel free to tell me why this is a bad idea. I won’t actually decide until after this weekend once I’ve met up with my Union Rep, and I’ll see if it’s possible for me to transfer to another department. The only thing I’m really scared of is potentially getting a bad/no reference, because management will be that pissed off with my decision to leave, but isn’t the whole point of a reference just to verify that you worked somewhere for X months, not comment on how good/bad you were whilst there?
have you been job searching up until now? if you haven’t, then i’d suggest searching while in your current job if you can. and if you have, then maybe that will have given you a sense of how easy it will be to find another job?
re. references, if you give the HR address or whatever, i think a lot of organisations do just confirm when you worked there and that you left of your own accord. obviously giving your line manager’s contact details as the reference would be a bad idea.
It’s not a bad idea because you are doing this. Take your time to recover from this bad day and make decisions with a clear head and good advice.
Don’t beat yourself up about the drinking at this point. One thing at a time.
Don’t worry about references. Unless you literally storm out throwing sharp objects at people you will be given a perfectly serviceable reference whatever your relationship with your boss.
Especially in the civil service where you are supposed to do this (I certainly was for HMRC), the person actually responding to the reference request, if they make it, probably won’t know you from Adam, that should be the least of your worries
Tbh I haven’t. The thing is, because of my current job, I’m so bogged down with dread and anxiety all the time, I just don’t have the motivation to look for other work. I just feel like a zombie most of the time.
I am a bit worried about how employers might respond to a small gap on my CV after quitting this job - would employers really care if you had, say, a couple of months on your CV in which you weren’t employed? I’m not that scared because I’m still a fairly recent graduate, but maybe I’m naive?
This might sound odd but I actually feel like being in this toxic a job is just as/even more damaging to my employability than if I wasn’t currently employed, so I’m beginning to think I might as well just hurry up and quit, then at least I’ll have a lot of time to look for something I’m more suited to. If I don’t leave now I’m just going to be mentally imprisoned here for months and months and months.
I need to quit my job as soon as possible because honestly I feel like it is starting to ruin my life now. I’m drinking as I’m typing this because of how awful today was. Frankly I don’t want to go back into my office ever again.
It is easier to get a job when you already have a job, but that definitely doesn’t mean you can’t quit without having another lined up. I don’t think a 2 month gap is going to be a problem - the problem will be explaining why you left this job. But it’s not the worst thing in the world and won’t condemn you to a lifetime of unemployment. Plenty of other people have done it.
Yeah, this is the only reason why I’m having doubts. Even though I can be quite good at explaining myself around things like this.
It’s reached that point now where I feel like I don’t have any other choice, because I am utterly miserable and paranoid here frankly I cannot cope. I’ll just have to wait and see if there’s any way I can be transferred to another dept
And it’s all because of (some of) the people. This will sound snobby but I mean they’re so misinformed, gossipy, insensitive and awful that I feel like crying just thinking about them. I would say their personalities are actually a hazard to my health, they’re that awful. Yesterday one of the newbies was slagging off someone from another department because they’re ‘so quiet, never say anything to no one, I really didn’t like them because they never spoke’. Umm… that’s a bit like me. Then they slagged off someone else for the way they smell, then they slagged off more people behind their backs, including the manager (well, admittedly I found that quite amusing since I don’t like the manager either).
The whole morning was like this. It was really uncomfortable and awkward to sit through and no doubt I’ve got more of this vile stuff to sit through today, as I start work in less than an hour. I need to be moved to another department but I don’t think ‘because I don’t like these co-workers’ is a good enough reason, sadly. And I know it may be just as bad in a different place.
The main reason it’s easier to get a new job while you’re in work is that you’re exposed to people who might give you job opportunities. A couple of months’ break won’t bother anyone, but of course things can get sticky if you don’t find anything in that period. For the record I’ve twice gone over six months between jobs, and I wouldn’t really recommend it.
When it comes to explaining why you left your last job (and they might not even ask) you just riff off the old “time to seek new challenges” line. There’s no need to confess all the gory details of your past in an interview; it’s a sales pitch after all.
Maybe don’t try and explain it like this.
yep, i’ve done the 6+ month thing myself and it was awful.
i understand how he feels tho. i think we’ve all been in that situation. when you go to work it’s shit enough, even worse if you have nothing in common with your co workers and end up locked in your own head all day with no outlet for a spot of bullshitting or patter.
Doing something really clever in tableau at the moment, but none of my managers understand tableau/the stuff I do in general, just see an end result that works without understanding the difficulty behind it, so I will never get proper credit for progress and stuff