#23

Is there scope for you guys to market yourselves, go out and win work?

I work in information/research and I work/ed for large global organisations (current one has 6-7 times your number of staff). My organisation has an offshore centre in India that does what we do, but we still keep our jobs by offering something more (local knowledge, responsiveness, the benefit of being in the same building - just like you guys). But people have to know about us, you know? Is your manager doing any promotion? Or would that not work in your environment?

Good luck anyway - sounds like a good idea to be looking for work.

#25

Iā€™m a project manager in a publishing company. Itā€™s sort of a mix between project management of books and editorial work (much more of the former).

#27

I used to be.

#29

Iā€™ve been on a few paid courses in PRINCE2 but didnā€™t bother doing any reading. the reality of the situation was that no one really cared about its principles enough to properly see them all through.

did you have a particular ā€˜methodā€™ in mind that your work uses, or tries to use?

UK government uses prince2 btw.

#30

Not really - to be honest I sort of fell into it and have learned through bitter experience and fucking a lot of things up.

I donā€™t think anyone I work with has done a specific course (PRINCE2, scrum certification or anything) so I think it sort of depends what type of thing you want to do.

#32

The overall manager here says heā€™s contacting different parts of the company to get work given to us. One colleague in our building has stopped giving the work to an outside supplier after having to wait three weeks for a quite simple illustration and then giving up and coming to us after she realised what we do. The manager has got us some work in from the Oxford building, and from another London office. Reckons heā€™s talking to people in Asia and elsewhere in Europe about not using outside suppliers and coming to us instead. Itā€™s a case of old habits die hard for a lot of them, I think.

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#33

Pretty much everywhere, in my experience, wants Prince 2 or an equivalent (APM) as a minimum. You just read up to pass and bite your lip at the total nonsense made up definitions

#34

Shame that Princeā€™s second album was called Prince because replying ā€˜Prince?ā€™ to a PRINCE2 post would be confusing. However if it had been Controversy or Dirty Mind it would have been hilarious and would probably have been the first post to pass 500 likes.

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#35

Only 498 to go!

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#36

Sure :grinning: What do you want to know?

Oh. I mean, noā€¦

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#37

Yeah - I guess the point I was making was that ā€˜project managerā€™ is often used to cover a wide range of jobs/roles etc, some of which are very 'PRINCE2) and some of which arenā€™t. I think someone who relied on PRINCE" certification wouldnā€™t get a job very easily in our team of ā€˜project managersā€™.

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#38

kind of bored as no big project atm. Kind of irked Iā€™m underpaid. Would like to go freelance and get Ā£400 a day, but would have to travel. Might become a plasterer and get that. lol idk whatamilikelol :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:um:

#40

Again today:

Everyone can go home an hour earlier than they would have.

Or to the Craft Beer Pub if you like. Before all the Friday night drinkers start crowding us out.

#41

You salary or hourly rate?

#42

Salary. :grinning:

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#43

Just worried that if work levels are so low that weā€™re all leaving an hour early every day that theyā€™ll be wanting to make redundancies.

#44

Oh of course thatā€™s a worry. Go to the pub to forget about it now and use your hour off on Monday to update your cv just in case. Win win

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#45

Thatā€™s the plan!

#46

I have been fixing other peoplesā€™ shitty work all day and havenā€™t managed to get around to any of my own tasks yet, since aforementioned shitty work has been blocking me.

cunts

#47

The meeting was moved to today instead. Something to do with availability of rooms. It was just a regular department meeting so we brought up the subject under AOB.

Apparently, the official figures say that weā€™re no less productive than last year or the year before. Weā€™re just more efficient, better at our jobs, more accurate so that fewer jobs need to come back for amends.

Two years ago it was a good day if we turned around 30 jobs between us. Weā€™re generally doing around that many now. Weā€™re just quicker and better at it.

More work is due before the end of the summer though when the 2019 and some 2020 jobs start coming in.